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Sentynel One with The Other Place
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10 Dec 05 - 20:05
He's definitely a lot better than many characters out there. I'm sure you're not supposed to like his personality in the second book, just to find his high-and-mightiness amusing.
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Ptomely Mouler
10 Dec 05 - 21:35
Why does everyone hate him?
Kenny Imp
10 Dec 05 - 21:36
they have probably read ptolemy's gate. i heard he does something bad in it.
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Sentynel One with The Other Place
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10 Dec 05 - 22:17
Actually, those of us who've finished the series like him. It's him in the Golem's Eye we don't like, cos he's such a high-and-mighty little... no, can't say that here... in it.
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Ptomely Mouler
10 Dec 05 - 22:24
You mean a word that you can't say? I can think of 3 words and 2 phrases you're thinking about :mouth:
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10 Dec 05 - 23:58
Yea, he's gotten pretty snobby lately in Golems Eye, i really want to read Ptolemy's Gate so much!!! Id love to see his cuffs if they maea a movie

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Nathaniel Djinni
11 Dec 05 - 07:22
I didn't find him too bad, yes he was worse than in first, but thats bcause hes more like a magician
11 Dec 05 - 13:26
i dont hate him i dislike his personality in the second book
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Ptomely Mouler
12 Dec 05 - 21:54
I hate how magicians think they're better then commoners. That idea was in Nathaniel's brain even in the 1st book. So what you know spells and how to summon a djini! Tell any person how to and they can do it!

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17 Dec 05 - 00:58
Ptomely wrote: I hate how magicians think they're better then commoners. That idea was in Nathaniel's brain even in the 1st book. So what you know spells and how to summon a djini! Tell any person how to and they can do it!
But that's the glorious irony of it. Anybody could do it, but the magicians still think they're better just because they actually ARE doing it.

Ah, irony...if I'm even using that right...
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Ptomely Mouler
17 Dec 05 - 02:44
bloodythorns wrote:
Ptomely wrote: I hate how magicians think they're better then commoners. That idea was in Nathaniel's brain even in the 1st book. So  what you know spells and how to summon a djini! Tell any person how to and they can do it!
But that's the glorious irony of it. Anybody could do it, but the magicians still think they're better just because they actually ARE doing it.

Ah, irony...if I'm even using that right...
It's like Harry Potter! You don't have to be born with magical blood to use magic, look at Hermione! It's the same thing in the Barty Trilogy
Shadow 7 Foliot
17 Dec 05 - 05:08
Ptomely wrote:
bloodythorns wrote:
Ptomely wrote: I hate how magicians think they're better then commoners. That idea was in Nathaniel's brain even in the 1st book. So  what you know spells and how to summon a djini! Tell any person how to and they can do it!
But that's the glorious irony of it. Anybody could do it, but the magicians still think they're better just because they actually ARE doing it.

Ah, irony...if I'm even using that right...
It's like Harry Potter! You don't have to be born with magical blood to use magic, look at Hermione! It's the same thing in the Barty Trilogy
I dont understand. Magicians are taken from 'commonor's' families so why are you arguing this? even the magicians agree that commonors can be magiciens if they are proporly trained.
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I lowered the arm. "That's not all I can do if I put your mind to it"'

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Nathaniel Djinni
17 Dec 05 - 19:10
wrote:I dont understand. Magicians are taken from 'commonor's' families so why are you arguing this? even the magicians agree that commonors can be magiciens if they are proporly trained.
very gd point

wrote: It's like Harry Potter! You don't have to be born with magical blood to use magic, look at Hermione! It's the same thing in the Barty Trilogy
I thought this was like an error in Hermione's gentics that made here a magician rather then her being able to do magic by chance
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Ptomely Mouler
18 Dec 05 - 02:32
What about Harry's mother then, she was a muggle too
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Nathaniel Djinni
19 Dec 05 - 16:40
yeah but his father was a magician so mybe his gentics overpowered his mother's genetics and so harry became a magician
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Bowles Foliot
20 Dec 05 - 20:36
Nathaniel wrote: yeah but his father was a magician so mybe his gentics overpowered his mother's genetics and so harry became a magician
Harry's mother was a witch, also, albeit a muggle-born one, so really genetically the chances of Harry being born anything but a wizard are quite minute.

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Nathaniel Djinni
21 Dec 05 - 09:23
Oh, HP isn't my favuorite books so i dont really remember them well
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Sentynel One with The Other Place
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24 Dec 05 - 17:30
As far as I could tell in HP, there's a chance of any Muggle having the ability to use magic, just like there's a chance any wizard might not be very good at magic. It's just far more likely that they'll be like their parents.
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Gladstone Golem
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30 Dec 05 - 21:14
In Barti Trilogy, commoners can do magic, the kids are picked when their "common" parents sell them to the government. Magicians arent allowed to have kids as it creates competing dynasties and civil war, according to Underwood.
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Krim Horla
31 Dec 05 - 04:44
Or maybe it's not really much of a secret as long as you know what to say and how to say it, and anyone can learn how to summon demons and whatnot. I don't believe Stroud ever mentioned one had to be born with the power, but I haven't read the Amulet for a while. I bet this has been previously mentioned, but I'm too busy not reading to read anyway.
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