Ptomely Mouler
25 Feb 06 - 15:16
What exactly did Ptomely do for Bartimeaus that made him always assume Ptomely's form?
What Ptomely did for Bartimeaus
Ptolemy's Gate
25 Feb 06 - 15:21
Have you read the third book?
I guess he trusted Bartimaeus with his life and also Ptolemy made them more equals.
I guess he trusted Bartimaeus with his life and also Ptolemy made them more equals.
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Nathaniel Djinni
25 Feb 06 - 16:29
yeah it is to do with trust that Ptolemy had in Barty and therefore respected him and so took his form after he died as a mark of respect
Ramuthra Mite
16 Mar 06 - 22:59
1: Ptolemy treated Bartimeaus as an equal, something magicians don't do
2: He gave Bartimeaus the freedom to travel between Earth and the Other Place at will, without need for summonings and dismissals
3: When death was imminant, he dismissed Bartimeaus, sacrificing what was left of his own life in order to save Bartimaeus.
2: He gave Bartimeaus the freedom to travel between Earth and the Other Place at will, without need for summonings and dismissals
3: When death was imminant, he dismissed Bartimeaus, sacrificing what was left of his own life in order to save Bartimaeus.
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17 Mar 06 - 07:04
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8 Jul 06 - 15:26
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Affa Mouler
19 Jul 06 - 13:47
Ptolemy and Nat did the same thing for Barti. Both of them saved his live because they released him! So mabey BArtimaeus will take his form in the future. That would be nice!![]()
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Apocrypha Afrit
20 Jul 06 - 19:29
That has been disscused here for a long time. If Barti would take the form of Nat or keep the form of Ptolemy or even combine the two.
Rekhyt2238 Utukku
20 Jul 06 - 20:17
I think he'll use all three forms (Nat, Kitty, Ptolemy), depending on his mood.
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Apocrypha Afrit
20 Jul 06 - 22:21
I asked Mr. Stroud.
Phoenix Utukku
2 Oct 06 - 08:17
That reminds me. Exactly how could Barti move between the worlds? Aren't Dismissals a requirement for a djinni to go back, and likewise, summonings a requirement fro a spirit to come from the OP?
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
Ianna Marid
2 Oct 06 - 11:11
Well, usually.
But I think Ptolemy gave him permission. Or he could just ask Ptolemy to go back whenever he wanted.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
But I think Ptolemy gave him permission. Or he could just ask Ptolemy to go back whenever he wanted.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
Rekhyt2238 Utukku
3 Oct 06 - 02:46
Yes, that would be my guess.
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Phoenix Utukku
3 Oct 06 - 08:36
But is that even possible? How can a spirit dismiss itself, and go to Earth by itself?
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
3 Oct 06 - 19:30
Ptolemy presumably had worked out a way to communicate with him. Or maybe he'd just say to Ptolemy "I want a break for a week" and Ptolemy would release him and then summon him again a week later.
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Ianna Marid
3 Oct 06 - 23:13
Well, as not many people would let their servants run free, we wouldn't know.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
Artemis Afrit
4 Oct 06 - 15:30
I'd let my djiini run free throughout the world, only unlike Ptolemy I'd go with them. It'd be so cool to get to explore everything like that. *sigh* A girl can dream...
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I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
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That this night will never go.
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4 Oct 06 - 19:06
They'd probably drop you to get free, ya know XD
Yeah, this is probably it.wrote:Ptolemy presumably had worked out a way to communicate with him. Or maybe he'd just say to Ptolemy "I want a break for a week" and Ptolemy would release him and then summon him again a week later.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
crammings Mite
21 Nov 06 - 23:29
Ptolemy really stands out remarkably from other magicians. His selflessness and thirst for knowledge are quite impressive, and his trust in Bartimaeus amazes me.
The Relaxed Reason Mouler
4 Feb 07 - 00:59
He treated Bartimaeus as an equal, and wanted to learn from him. He didn't just summon him to do trivial tasks and to protect him. It was a genuine friendship between them.