Apocrypha Afrit
22 Jun 06 - 22:04
Yeah but it slowed down his research.
Nat or Ptolemy
General DiscussionWho's better (in character)
Affa Mouler
19 Jul 06 - 13:58
I´d say Ptolemy but nat is also very nice. Ok! ot in book two and at the beginning of book three but for a magacian!![]()
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Flibbertigibet Imp
28 Jul 06 - 01:40
I voted for Ptolemy, because he embarassed the heck out of that pharoah in Ptolemy's Gate.
Anyway, I don't think that it was necessarily Ptolemy's charity that stopped him from finishing his research. I thought that it was the whole 'being killed by assassins' thing that messed with him. Not only that, I thought that he had written some books that got ignored.
Anyway, I don't think that it was necessarily Ptolemy's charity that stopped him from finishing his research. I thought that it was the whole 'being killed by assassins' thing that messed with him. Not only that, I thought that he had written some books that got ignored.
AnukSuNamon Afrit
22 Aug 06 - 23:24
Ptolemy Is sooo much better then Nathaniel. Ptolemy's kind, cares for others, does all he can to treat EVERYONE equally. That means djinn, too. All Nathaniel cared/cares about was power. Ptolemy didn't care about that at all. Ptolemy wins, hands down.
"If you take [a copy of] the Christian Bible and put it out in the wind and the rain, soon the paper on which the words are printed will disintegrate and the words will be gone. Our bible IS the wind and the rain." Herbalist Carol McGrath as told to her by a Native-American woman.
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NARUTO FOREVER!
"If you take [a copy of] the Christian Bible and put it out in the wind and the rain, soon the paper on which the words are printed will disintegrate and the words will be gone. Our bible IS the wind and the rain." Herbalist Carol McGrath as told to her by a Native-American woman.
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NARUTO FOREVER!
Ianna Marid
22 Aug 06 - 23:35
Um, Nat cares about people too. He just forgot it for a few years. He sacerficed everything for the people of London, is brave, has common sense, is smart, and is a more "real" character.
Ptolemy was pretty cool, but Nat kicks his butt.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
Ptolemy was pretty cool, but Nat kicks his butt.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
Artemis Afrit
24 Aug 06 - 23:07
I voted for Ptolemy. Mostly because he didn't become disillusioned in a search for power and lose his conscience. (Even if in Nat's case it was only temporary.) True he was a bit obsessed with his reasearch, but a lot of people, even nowadays tend to do that so...
Not to worry fangirls, I don't hate Nat, I like him too... Just not the way you (or one of my friends who shall remain nameless) do. :D
Not to worry fangirls, I don't hate Nat, I like him too... Just not the way you (or one of my friends who shall remain nameless) do. :D
I say night I'm living in the forest of my dream,
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.
Laura Branigan, Self-control
Oh, Canada...
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.
Laura Branigan, Self-control
Oh, Canada...Ianna Marid
25 Aug 06 - 00:47
Ok, people, I'm not a fangirl.
He reminds me of myself a lot, and he deserves defending because a lot of people flam him.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
He reminds me of myself a lot, and he deserves defending because a lot of people flam him.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
Artemis Afrit
25 Aug 06 - 04:36
Don't worry Ianna, I believe you're not a fangirl. If you were, whenever you saw the name "Nat" you'd probably start drooling, then type a lot of "I Love Nat!" propoganda. (Like a certain friend of mine!)Ianna wrote: Ok, people, I'm not a fangirl.
He reminds me of myself a lot, and he deserves defending because a lot of people flam him.
I say night I'm living in the forest of my dream,
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.
Laura Branigan, Self-control
Oh, Canada...
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.
Laura Branigan, Self-control
Oh, Canada...Ianna Marid
25 Aug 06 - 11:09
Thank-you.
One of you people has a brain. Unlike some Delusional shippers.
That's right, delusional.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
One of you people has a brain. Unlike some Delusional shippers.
That's right, delusional.
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
Artemis Afrit
25 Aug 06 - 17:46
You're welcome! And yes, lot's of shippers are delusional, but that's what makes them fun. :DIanna wrote: Thank-you.
One of you people has a brain. Unlike some Delusional shippers.
That's right, delusional.
I say night I'm living in the forest of my dream,
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.
Laura Branigan, Self-control
Oh, Canada...
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.
Laura Branigan, Self-control
Oh, Canada...
Phoenix Utukku
2 Oct 06 - 08:42
Nathaniel. He achieves a level of union with Bartimeaus Ptolemy never did.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
Ianna Marid
2 Oct 06 - 11:13
Yay Nathaniel!
However, though Nat totally rocks, I still think that Ptolemy and Bartimaeus's relationship was more fullfilled somehow...
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
However, though Nat totally rocks, I still think that Ptolemy and Bartimaeus's relationship was more fullfilled somehow...
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
2 Oct 06 - 19:51
When forced by Kitty in order to save the world. Neither were particularly happy about it. Ptolemy voluntarily crossed to Barti's world. That's a far greater sacrifice for him.Phoenix wrote: Nathaniel. He achieves a level of union with Bartimeaus Ptolemy never did.
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Ianna Marid
2 Oct 06 - 20:35
Agreed.
Though they got to know each other better. And Nat did free Bartimaues...
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
Though they got to know each other better. And Nat did free Bartimaues...
"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."
Mwamba Higher Spirit
2 Oct 06 - 22:21
And so did Ptolemy. He was bad and redeemed himself at the end. Ptolemy was good all the way through.
流口水的婊子和猴子的笨儿子。
Artemis Afrit
2 Oct 06 - 23:38
It took Nat an awful long time to discover that djinn weren't just emotionless slaves. And besides, if they'd known a magician and spirit could share a body in Ptolemy's time I'm sure they would've tried it. I still think that Barti had a stronger bond with Ptolemy then he did Nat.
I say night I'm living in the forest of my dream,
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.
Laura Branigan, Self-control
Oh, Canada...
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.
Laura Branigan, Self-control
Oh, Canada...Mwamba Higher Spirit
2 Oct 06 - 23:48
Oh, definately. Nat have a closer bond...*snort.*
流口水的婊子和猴子的笨儿子。
Phoenix Utukku
3 Oct 06 - 08:24
Ptolemy wasn't brainwashed by magicians like Nat, was he? Those were different times. Yes, Nathaniel is forced, but when he's joined with Barti, he understands the suffering spirits go through by being kept on Earth.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
Mwamba Higher Spirit
3 Oct 06 - 12:01
Nat didn't truely understand or care until the end.
And it doesn't matter if Ptolemy wasn't brainwashed. He was still kinder to Barti than Nat, and that's all Barti is going to care about. Ptolemy had a closer relationship and always will. End of story.
And it doesn't matter if Ptolemy wasn't brainwashed. He was still kinder to Barti than Nat, and that's all Barti is going to care about. Ptolemy had a closer relationship and always will. End of story.
流口水的婊子和猴子的笨儿子。
Phoenix Utukku
3 Oct 06 - 12:41
Which is all that matters.wrote: Nat didn't truely understand or care until the end.
His efforts were fine, to be sure, but in the end, who was reading whose's mind and was one with Bartimaeus?wrote:And it doesn't matter if Ptolemy wasn't brainwashed. He was still kinder to Barti than Nat, and that's all Barti is going to care about. Ptolemy had a closer relationship and always will. End of story.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.