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17 May 06 - 01:47

wrote:I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but Bartimaeus said Gladstone's staff contained at least two marids' worth of power. Think it means anything?

Also, the Prime Minister himself only had an afrit (in AoS, at least). And Bartimaeus said in his "pep talk" that the Czechs had a marid. I'm guessing marids are generally summoned for times of war, considering the most powerful person on the planet didn't have one to guard his back.

I think it means Gladstone was very potent.

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Serpent of the silver plumes Foliot

17 May 06 - 19:39

lol yeah i guess, he just didnt want to be challenged

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admin

17 May 06 - 20:35

Mr Button summoned the marid to talk to it.

Deveraux isn't powerful enough to summon much. Even the afrit is summoned by his advisers. He'd need far too many people involved to summon a marid - more people than he could trust.

Who has a marid as a bodyguard in book three? o_O

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Serpent of the silver plumes Foliot

17 May 06 - 21:05

one of the guys helping hopkins when bart enters as a fly

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soldier Mite

16 Aug 06 - 12:47

Shadow 7 wrote: Nouda. Ramuthra is strong but...

Nope, I recall somewhere in Ptolemy's Gate when Barti was in Nats body he said to Nouda 'I have fought far greater entities than you.....including the mighty Ramuthra' These are not the exact words but he said something like this.
Also Bartimaeus originally said that Nouda was 'probably' stronger than a Marid not 'definitely', but with Ramuthra he was sure of it.

Ianna Marid

16 Aug 06 - 20:38

Good point, but I think he was saying that to goad Nouda.

It didn't work.

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."

Apocrypha Afrit

22 Aug 06 - 20:26

Ramthura was stronger than NOuda. Ramthury disrupted the elements, the careful order magic depends on, Ramthura could've gulped up Nouda if he was there.

Rekhyt2238 Utukku

22 Aug 06 - 20:31

Apocrypha wrote: Ramthura could've gulped up Nouda if he was there.

Yes, probably just as easy, as the PM's Afrit.

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Ianna Marid

22 Aug 06 - 20:46

So, I guess we all pretty much agree Nouda is pulp when Ramuthra is around?

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."

Phoenix Utukku

2 Oct 06 - 08:25

Remember we never actually saw Nouda at his finest. It took Faquarl weeks to
gain full control over the new body. Nouda had less than a day.

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

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admin

2 Oct 06 - 19:56

Yes, but Nouda wasn't trying to behave exactly like a real human like Faquarl was. Nouda only needed to point an arm in vaguely the right direction and throw detonations.

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Ianna Marid

2 Oct 06 - 20:34

Techincally, we never saw Ramuthra at his finest either.

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."

Phoenix Utukku

3 Oct 06 - 08:25

But Ramuthra was on full-on spirit form. Nouda still didn't have full control. He didn't alter the planes to the extent Ramuthra did, but that was because he was inside a human body.

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

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admin

3 Oct 06 - 19:35

Why would a mere human body stop the reality warping effect?

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Rekhyt2238 Utukku

4 Oct 06 - 02:38

Wasn't it the rift that was causing the warping?

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Post Higher Spirit

4 Oct 06 - 09:01

Sentynel wrote: Why would a mere human body stop the reality warping effect?

Actually the host body was slowly being warped.

Shame of the Super Son

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4 Oct 06 - 16:47

Rekhyt2238 wrote: Wasn't it the rift that was causing the warping?

Both did.

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Phoenix Utukku

4 Oct 06 - 18:51

wrote: Why would a mere human body stop the reality warping effect?

Because it compresses the entirety of the spirit into the body.

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

Post Higher Spirit

5 Oct 06 - 09:24

...And why would that work?

Shame of the Super Son

Phoenix Utukku

5 Oct 06 - 10:37

Because that's the point. Supernatural activities get trapped inside the body.

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

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