Marids

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Shadow 7 Foliot
14 May 06 - 23:42
It dosn't contain the most powerful etinity, what made you think that?
'"That's right," I said "Me. What, did you think that I'd be all nice and quiet for you? Think again, sonny. There are two of us in this body now. Check this out."
To prove my point I lifted one of his fingers and methodically picked his nose. He uttered a squawk of protest. "Stop that!"'
I lowered the arm. "That's not all I can do if I put your mind to it"'

-Bartimaeus

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14 May 06 - 23:46
the fact they say it can absorb any magical attack therefore it has to be the strongest, its called illimination
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Apocrypha Afrit
14 May 06 - 23:49
Bart said something about the amulet on the hypothetical 8th plane. The chinese created it. :yes:
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15 May 06 - 00:10
thats cool but how is it relevant to it beeing all powerfull, maybe nouda and ramuthra... can also see in the "8th plane" and beyond that
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Apocrypha Afrit
15 May 06 - 00:16
Bart said some do that but theyre showing off. So I doubt it.
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15 May 06 - 00:17
bart has a huge ego, he denies the fact other can do stuff he cant
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Apocrypha Afrit
15 May 06 - 00:19
Yes but Nouda doesn't operate on the 8th plane. I don't think so.
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15 May 06 - 00:22
dunno, you maybe right, he isnt that much over the marid limit anyways
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15 May 06 - 20:21
The 8th plane isn't really useful for anything. The seventh and down do everything the 8th can, so using it is pointless.

It never claims the Amulet can stop any magical attack, it's just rather powerful.
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Ianna Marid
15 May 06 - 20:53
The amulet is an equal and opposite force to Ramuthra. According to Lovelace or Schyler. Can't remember which.

At any time there's magicians powerful enough, a newer, stronger, entity could rise. And though the Amulet would probably withstand most magicial attacks, it might fail.

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where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
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Apocrypha Afrit
16 May 06 - 00:29
I suppose
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16 May 06 - 21:13
a newer entity cant just appear like that, their fate has nothing to do with the magicians, they die and are reborn from their essence
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Luciene Higher Spirit
16 May 06 - 21:18
So Farquarl can come back, but his escence might be mixed with Nouda's for example?
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16 May 06 - 21:22
he cant come back, his essence has been seperated from the other realm when he took control of the body
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Luciene Higher Spirit
16 May 06 - 21:36
But then he died. Wouldn't he be serparated from the body and move on, probably back to the Other Place?
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16 May 06 - 22:06
no, there was a part missing in his essence, its his tie back to the other realm, he can never go back, his essence is doomed, barti explained it
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Ianna Marid
16 May 06 - 22:36
wrote:a newer entity cant just appear like that, their fate has nothing to do with the magicians, they die and are reborn from their essence


  no, there was a part missing in his essence, its his tie back to the other realm, he can never go back, his essence is doomed, barti explained it
Ok, first of all I have a problem with the top sentence. The magicians give pieces of essence a name and they become entities. Explained in PG when Bartimaeus is talking to Kitty.

When a djinni or other spirits dies, they're dead. They're essence is destoryed. There wasn't a part of essence missing really. It was the fact that the magician's brain was destoryed so Faqural couldn't be sent home.

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16 May 06 - 23:12
hum, i guess i was wrong then touché
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17 May 06 - 00:18
I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but Bartimaeus said Gladstone's staff contained at least two marids' worth of power. Think it means anything?

Also, the Prime Minister himself only had an afrit (in AoS, at least). And Bartimaeus said in his "pep talk" that the Czechs had a marid. I'm guessing marids are generally summoned for times of war, considering the most powerful person on the planet didn't have one to guard his back.
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17 May 06 - 00:23
they are comonly invoked, in book 3 one has one as a bodygard, kitty's tutor summoned some and lost a member from it
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