Rule1:No Weapons. Rule2:Fight to the death. Who would win?!

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I'm assuming that no weapons doesn't include magical attacks by Bartimaeus and I'm also assuming it means that Nathaniel couldn't summon anything. Nathaniel and the Footstool wouldn't last 2 seconds, so it would be Barty vs Verroq. Verroq wouldn't be able to injure Bart without his siilver weapons, and Bart wouldn't be able to injure Verroq with magic attacks (even if he is allowed to use them, as I'm assuming he is). So it would pretty much come down to a fist fight. The result would all depend on Bart's strength. If he was a pyramid of slime, Verroq could probably just squish him. But if Bart was at normal strength I can't see Verroq being able to physically injure him. He probably wouldn't be able to catch him, even with his 7-league boots, as he can't fly. Bart would just beat him unconcious as Faquarl did in "Ptolemy's Gate".
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Pwnt.

Also, Barti can change form, yes? Another advantage. Also, brains over muscle any day.
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Feh.
Finally, someone presents a valid argument.
I still have my doubts though, considering Verroq's sheer skill.
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I think Verroq's resistance would prevent Barti from directly hurting him, though. Remember the mouler they set on Kitty to test her resilience? She kills it accidentally. I get the impression someone with resilience as strong as Verroq's would be able to do something similar to Barti, even at full strength.
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I have to say, I think DC has a point:
DavidCat wrote:Verroq's resilience wouldn't save him from a sword through the head...
Though whether there are sharp objects handy is debatable.

I notice no one thinks Nathaniel has a chance.

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FuzzyLobster wrote:Though whether there are sharp objects handy is debatable.
Well given Rule 1 is "no weapons"...
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Sentynel wrote:
FuzzyLobster wrote:Though whether there are sharp objects handy is debatable.
Well given Rule 1 is "no weapons"...
Fine. Bart would beat him to death.
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Um, I'm going to side with Sent on that one:
Sentynel wrote: think Verroq's resistance would prevent Barti from directly hurting him, though. Remember the mouler they set on Kitty to test her resilience? She kills it accidentally. I get the impression someone with resilience as strong as Verroq's would be able to do something similar to Barti, even at full strength.


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FuzzyLobster wrote:Where does it say that?
Top of the first page.
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Sorry, only looked at the actual post.


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lol.
I'm still leaning for Verroq, mostly because of Faquarl's rather quick beat down.
1) Verroq wasn't expecting such a physical attack, considering most spirits would just throw a Detonation his way and be done with it.
2) He was in for quite the shock, see his employers rolling around like turtles on there back.

Fighting Bartimaeus, he would be far more wary and so ready for whatever Barti could throw at him.
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Sentynel wrote:I think Verroq's resistance would prevent Barti from directly hurting him, though. Remember the mouler they set on Kitty to test her resilience? She kills it accidentally. I get the impression someone with resilience as strong as Verroq's would be able to do something similar to Barti, even at full strength.
yes, good point, i hadn't thought about that one. but verroq's resilience woudn't do much against bart if he threw a statue at him, like in AoS. I'm still putting my money on barti.
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In AoS, Verroq just shrugged the statue off of him and got up.
I'm going Verroq, for my last post's stated reasons.
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if i remember correctly, verroq is stuck under the statue and when bart's about to finish him off nat inconveniently summons him.
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Actually, Bart uses the time afforded to take off his 7 League Boots and toss 'em into the lake he pulled the statue from.
He was saying he'd finish him off, but Verroq was already standing by that point.
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was he? i'll check
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Be my guest.
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Unfortunately not.

Verroq does manage to move the statue off himself, but that's only because Bart can't do anything because he's being summoned.

He'd ALREADY thrown Verroq's 7-league boots into the lake BEFORE throwing the statue, and could have finished off Verroq when he was struggling with the statue had he not been summoned. He didn't, as you said, use the time afforded by the statue to dispose of the boots.

Verroq only gets a chance to stand because Bart's being summoned. If you remember, Bartimaeus was angry, and could have finished Verroq using brute force, as Farquarl does in PG (because by that point Bart has realised Verroq's resilience to magic).

Check the book yourself if you're unsure, page 417 of Amulet.
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Something symbolic in that. It's what fake freedom does for you.
Faquarl could defeat Verroq quite easily, right? Then why can't Bart? I know Faquarl is stronger but Bart can compete with him easily.
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