Djinn levels?

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16 May 06 - 22:00
it is a fact that ramuthra is more powerfull, and nouda had been used by the egyptians to anyhalate the hebrews
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Ianna Marid
16 May 06 - 22:45
Where does it say that?

Just because we saw Ramuthra's full powers, and it's more likely he is, doesn't mean anything. Nouda could have just been around longer.

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16 May 06 - 23:19
ramuthra absorbs all magic (almost) and i mean nouda was killed by the power of 2 marids, aint that tough. Barti names entities more powerfull than nouda, ramuthra is there and for the egyptian thing i think its in the third, bart says something about him crushing ppl under his feat and now hes soft, or nat said it when makepeace was gona invoke him, im not sure

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17 May 06 - 20:06
Ramuthra hasn't been seriously tested. I mean, what's an afrit and a couple of djinni to a marid, never mind a higher spirit?

Who says Gladstone's staff had two marids in? They could well have been higher spirits too.

When does Barti name spirits more powerful than Nouda? I have checked and I can't find anything like it...
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Luciene Higher Spirit
17 May 06 - 20:08
He said he fought other spirits and won when he was bragging to Nouda, those were probably stronger.
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17 May 06 - 20:11
he says he has faced more powerfull spirits and won, ramuthra trembles when he hears my name and crap like that
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Luciene Higher Spirit
17 May 06 - 20:26
Although most of what he said was probably lies, there might be a tiny grain of truth somewhere.
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17 May 06 - 20:27
the stories were lies but the fact they are stronger isnt
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Luciene Higher Spirit
17 May 06 - 20:28
Does he mention any names?
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17 May 06 - 20:31
yes, there is another one i remember about a snake prefering to eat his tail then face him or something like that
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Ianna Marid
17 May 06 - 20:34
wrote: ramuthra absorbs all magic (almost) and i mean nouda was killed by the power of 2 marids, aint that tough. Barti names entities more powerfull than nouda, ramuthra is there and for the egyptian thing i think its in the third, bart says something about him crushing ppl under his feat and now hes soft, or nat said it when makepeace was gona invoke him, im not sure

  Ramuthra hasn't been seriously tested. I mean, what's an afrit and a couple of djinni to a marid, never mind a higher spirit?

Who says Gladstone's staff had two marids in? They could well have been higher spirits too.

When does Barti name spirits more powerful than Nouda? I have checked and I can't find anything like it...
Ramuthra doesn't absorb magic, he disrupts it.

And I think that the iron had a lot to do with Nouda's death too.

But the point is Bartimaeus never says he is more powerful that Nouda. Or they are, in fact.

Lower power spirits can win. Bart got lucky and got an afrit. He mentions this in book three somewhere.

He names spirits at the end for a bragging like goad.

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17 May 06 - 20:36
but the annoyance would not have worked had they been weaker its like yeah so i could take him, see where im coming from

the stories never happened but they are more powerfull,

and what iron, the staff killed nouda
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Ianna Marid
17 May 06 - 20:43
wrote:but the annoyance would not have worked had they been weaker its like yeah so i could take him, see where im coming from

the stories never happened but they are more powerfull,

and what iron, the staff killed nouda
You need to reread the end. Nat and Bart lurded Nouda to the center of the building so the iron and glass would fall on Nouda.

Yes, but if they were of equal power that could have worked too.

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17 May 06 - 20:45
of yah but still in there he absorbed the beams, after it broke he was killed by the 2 marid power, he aint so tough
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Ianna Marid
17 May 06 - 20:47
wrote: of yah but still in there he absorbed the beams, after it broke he was killed by the 2 marid power, he aint so tough
Yes, he absorbed the beams.

But they were afraid he still might live so iron was back up.

And if it was all the mariads concentrated power, that's a lot. Because Bartimaeus has almost gotten himself killed with his own detentations (see Prolouge, GE) that means that full concentrated power is more than enough to take spirits out.

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17 May 06 - 20:49
hum but still a concentrated djinn dose insnt enough to harm a ninth level afrit so marid concentrated dose wouldnt be enough for a superior creature of the highewst rank

Nouda aint there bud
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Ianna Marid
17 May 06 - 20:54
wrote:hum but still a concentrated djinn dose insnt enough to harm a ninth level afrit so marid concentrated dose wouldnt be enough for a superior creature of the highewst rank

Nouda aint there bud
Yeah, it would. It wouldn't blast them into oblivion, or maybe it would, but it still would hurt them.

That wasn't my point. My point was that even Bart can send near fatal blows to djinni, without really bothering. Think that times a lot plus two and you get a lot of power. Hence the staff's power is super-duper strong.

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Sentynel One with The Other Place
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17 May 06 - 20:55
I don't think it actually states they're marids in Gladstone's staff, just powerful spirits.
He absorbed the beams. He was strong enough to absorb the attacks of two spirits that were at least marids. No afrit can absorb a djinni's attacks.
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Ianna Marid
17 May 06 - 20:57
wrote: I don't think it actually states they're marids in Gladstone's staff, just powerful spirits.
He absorbed the beams. He was strong enough to absorb the attacks of two spirits that were at least marids. No afrit can absorb a djinni's attacks.
I think it stated there was at least two mariads worth of power. But that could many things.

And you're right.

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17 May 06 - 20:57
wrote:A ninth-level afrit, invulnerable to the magic of mere djinn
see and so the power of a marid could only hurt lower forms of the next stage like barti's can only hurt lover afrits
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