How is that anything to do with MS?

ARM is one of, if not the, biggest mobile device processor architectures. The processor in question was the Freescale.

64-bit is overrated. Few people actually need more than 4GB of RAM and there are very few applications in which you'll get a noticeable performance increase from 64-bit - indeed you may in many cases lose some performance because it's moving bigger blocks of data around, which takes longer.

Microsoft... I just remebered that I love them.

My dad and I (used to be for me, no big puter anymore... [cry]) use things like Photoshop, which needs at the very least 2 gig of RAM, and can swallow up more, Maya, which clearly benefits from 64-bit, and Final Cut Studio, same deal.
64-bit doesn't slow things down, it either gets used or wasted.
Multithreading is just maturing, it's getting better.
Can't wait for Snow Leopard and OpenCL!
We had a PowerMac G5 with Dual 2Ghz and 4.5gig of ram, ran just fine.

Dansariki wrote:My dad and I (used to be for me, no big puter anymore... [cry]) use things like Photoshop, which needs at the very least 2 gig of RAM, and can swallow up more, Maya, which clearly benefits from 64-bit, and Final Cut Studio, same deal.
64-bit doesn't slow things down, it either gets used or wasted.
Multithreading is just maturing, it's getting better.
Can't wait for Snow Leopard and OpenCL!
We had a PowerMac G5 with Dual 2Ghz and 4.5gig of ram, ran just fine.

4GB of RAM is plenty for image editing/3D graphics programs unless you're professional-level. Does Maya really benefit from 64 bit? A clear benchmarked gain? The only thing I've seen that actually runs significantly faster under 64 bit was one obscure PrimeGrid project, and even that was only about a 25% gain..
64 bit is moving larger blocks of data and it will slow down memory access; I've spoken to games devs about 64 bit and that was one thing they mentioned. It's not a great effect but given that the bonuses are also very small except in very unusual circumstances and few people have 64 bit support anyway, it means writing for 64 bit is generally pointless.
Nobody even mentioned multithreading.

I'm happy Intel put HT into Nehalem, very nice.
And yes, it dos.
Dad's tried to render things at work (thinking it's a nice way to use otherwise wasted time) and decided to take it home.
Clear gain.
And dad is professional, and so does.
Hell, I'm kinda.
Most gaming rigs have 2GB as the bare mininum, with 4GB/6GB (Core i7) or more as the norm.
I'm a gamer, I know these things.

btw the beta of Win7 is free to download if any of you want tor try it out.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/

Oh, they got it back online.
Fast work.

Dansariki wrote:I'm happy Intel put HT into Nehalem, very nice.
And yes, it dos.
Dad's tried to render things at work (thinking it's a nice way to use otherwise wasted time) and decided to take it home.
Clear gain.
And dad is professional, and so does.
Hell, I'm kinda.
Most gaming rigs have 2GB as the bare mininum, with 4GB/6GB (Core i7) or more as the norm.
I'm a gamer, I know these things.

Your home machine is probably vastly faster than the terminals they provide at work; doesn't say anything about 32 bit vs 64 bit.
2GB is plenty for a gaming system. Needing 4GB is a myth. Most gamers haven't a clue about what sort of specs you actually need for a gaming system - for example, can you tell me what speed RAM you'd want for a Wolfdale Core2Duo (1333MHz FSB) at stock speeds?
I've been gaming since before you were even born, I know these things..

Sentynel wrote:I've been gaming since before you were even born, I know these things..

He has a point

As an infant/toddler?

Jeez.

Damn straight.

Nope, couldn't tell you.
Don't care.
I'm a hardware guy, but I don't build anything, yet.
I don't know all the little specifics, only the major stuff, yet.
Gimme a couple months, I know people like you.
I will learn.

What kind of hardware guy hasn't built anything and can't do something as simple (if commonly screwed up) as getting the right RAM?

Installing new PCI ad HDD are fun too

I've installed graphics cards, RAM, hard drives.
I can suitably follow instructions, I don't know these things by heart.

Actually building stuff is the easy bit. If you can wield a screwdriver and are capable of assembling lego, you're pretty much sorted. The difficult bit is knowing what parts to get (and getting everything working once you've built it).

Sentynel wrote:The difficult bit is knowing what parts to get (and getting everything working once you've built it).

We can just ask you =P

Apparently not.

David Cat wrote:

Sentynel wrote:The difficult bit is knowing what parts to get (and getting everything working once you've built it).

We can just ask you =P

That's what I used to do, haven't bothered him for quite some time now :D