Ramuthra methinks, although Nouda and Faquarl together managed to do more DAMAGE than Ramuthra, that was because they weren't bound to a single room and they planned ahead.

Having read through the respective parts of the books, I'd have to say Ramuthra - when it's summoned, magic begins twisting. With nouda, the only magical effect of his presence is Makepeace's body being slowly distorted.

Nouda did that to one body, but only after being compressed into it. Ram simply stood in the same room and had a similar effect on many people.

As a side effect of this forum, don't call Ramuthra Ram or Rammy.

*Shudder*

This is probably just repeating what other people have already said, but Ramuthra disrupted the planes, Nouda just busted a fat, shorty's carcass.

true, true,
but it was a powerful fat shorty.
by the way, I do like the avatar.

Thankee. Powerful or no, it doesn't matter, after his mind was destroyed he (Makepeace) had about as much power as a cheeseburger. ( in a bun,hehe)

So that must have taken some effort from Nouda.

Remember, Frqual did it too. But I don't think it would take a lot of effort, kinda like pressing all the keys on your computer and messing it up.

Yes, well. I am glad to have human minds described as computers.

Ah, scratch that. Makepeace may or may not have been human...

Anyways, Nouda was prevented from destroying the plains, etc., because he was in Makepeace's body, huh?

But when he burst OUT of the body, he still didn't.
P.S. Please post on the topic Bartimaeus' Names, I wan't to see your input.

Me? Okay...

Thanks! :D
Back on topic, what do you mean by Makepeace not being compleatly human before Nouda?

I just meant that he was an evil freak.

Evil freaks are human, last time I checked.

*Looks in mirror*

Mwahahahaha!

It took 4 magicians to summon ramuthra and 1 more nouda. Ramuthra is alot stronger

ahhh BUT if you'll read my post in that topic, what if the magicians are only needed for control and to give orders, while the horn does the rest? Makepeace left to stay out of any trouble, lovelace needed to give orders, this explains how Makepeace can be gone and Schyler dead yet they still be able to summon it. Lime seems to week to have any honest contribution.

Nouda doesn't have a giant reality-altering rift following him everywhere. Rammy does.

Agreed.

As said that Ramuthra's essence causes chaos of the planes to conspire. He has never been summoned before and cannot take an apparation due to too much essence.

Ramuthra HAD been summoned before, though. Wasn't it him that wrecked Atlantis?

Actually, yeah, I think Bartimaeus did say something to that effect.