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There's a solution for that, Sentynel... Nuke everything. It'll be funny.



You're talking demographics, Luciene, I'm talking Philosophy. ;)

Media and Culture may compel a person to do something, It's a lack of Intelligence and Strength of character that forces him to blindly do it. Put a gun to a person's head, most go 'aw cabbage' but some will bitchslap you when you least expect it.

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Luciene Higher Spirit
wrote:But you do see biker gangs made up of little old ladies. (See the Monty Python sketch Hell's Grannies)
haha...that's my new life ambition. Ernest shall be their leader!!

If there was a gun to my head, I'd do everything that person says. If you slap them, they'll just get more pissed and be more likely to kill you.

Of course some kids would probably do it anyway, 'cos they see movies where that happens and 50 Cent, who got shot 9 times and survived and they underestimate the danger they're in.

Culture forms a person's character through the experiences that they go through and what they learn from it. For example, people who have lived under Sharia laaw for a long time, would be less likely to steal something than someone living in western culture 'cos subconciously they fear the punishment much more (i base this on opinion as i haven't tested it yet but whateva)
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.....Anyway, now to wait for the other states to vote...
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Fine. Slap him, knee him in th balls, take the gun and blow his head off yourself.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis_(graphic_novel)
People do rebel. Heh, Economics is far greater constraint than culture can ever be. An airplane ticket, some brains and will and a person can be anywhere on the planet. Be anyone.

That reasoning is a slippery slope, Luciene. How far removed is national pride from racism? The natural conclusion of pride is a feeling of superiority, is it not?
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Luciene Higher Spirit
Yea, I wanna watch the movie, looks good.

Just because you are proud of where you come from, doesn't necessarily mean that you think everyone else is trash. It's human nature to be proud of things like this. Why do you think we have the Olympics, which is separated by a person's background, not really the place where they live?

And I agree, economics is an important factor, but culture dictates how you will spend it. Like people of old money spend it different from people of new money and stuff. It's like that novel Great Gatsby.
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Its hypocritical, really. A bit of prejeduice and your proud of the nation, take it too far and your racist.

What I am saying, Luciene, it that maybe it is, but it does not have to be. People don't use their imagination. Put a man on the moon because the other guy is doing and forget abour mars when the other guy is broke.
Culture doesn't really matter that much. People like the superficial. We all laugh, cry and scream because we want to live forever but can not. Didn't the world become a 'big village' a decade ago?
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Luciene Higher Spirit
Why are you assuming that just because people appreciate their culture, they're automatically going to hate everyone else? Like, you're not Christian, but I'm not going all Ann Coulter jihad on your ass (even though your sig is highly debatable) and most people wouldn't.

And I know theoretically, we're all supposed to one big happy village, but that's not how it works in real life. Like, Christians don't even want to live forever 'cos we want to go to heaven, amiright?
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I think I lost the thread of this arguement. ;) Did I?

Anyways, It doesn't have to be a crusade, just a feeling of Superiority. Nations are all big jerks, have you ever seen one help another? Sure they give 'aid', but what is not discussed is the arrangement that the aid taker buys the stuff they need from the aid giver. Those poor African farmers can be rich in a matter of weeks if the West lifts the subsidies on it's own farmers.

Everybody wants to live forever. Every breath is a choice in that direction. To be not to be.



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Actually, I don't want to live forever. Just for a long time...
Apparently Obama and Clinton are in a tight race, but the latter is just ahead by a bit.
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nah..ur just losing the argument, but what's important is that u try :P

And a lot of nations don't give aid, they give resources, which really can't be returned. Like for the tsunami, I remember we were encouraged to donate items instead of money (although that was appreciated). Also there are organizations such as Doctors without borders, the doctors actually go there...and I know Canada sends people to Sudan to rebuild. And they don't receive much in return.

Also, breathing is involuntary, you aren't taught it, it comes naturally, and i don't know if you've tried, but it's a little hard to suddenly stop.

And also, about that Hamlet reference, it's out of context, he was really depressed and suicidal at that point, and it's important to note that he would have killed himself if it wasn't against the Church's beliefs and he didn't want to go to hell. If his cultural background was Buddhist, he wouldn't have those fears because he'd assume he would reincarnate.
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Only organizations like the Red Cross do that stuff. Did you see Bush at Davos? "Free Trade? Let me consult Uncle Sam... Uh huh... Sorry, Uncle Sam says 'F*ck you'"

And that is not the point! I'm being all eloquent and verbose and your dragging me down with Scientific facts! What would have happened if someone told Jesus if his body was denser than water?!
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Apollo wrote: Miss Clinton scares me slightly.
Mrs Clinton. Though I am never fussed abt it. Its just that ur 'Miss Clinton' sounded way to weird. Y don't u'll call them by their names - Hillary & Barack? Atleast, that's what I do. Why does'nt someone open a poll - Republican vs Democratic or Hillary vs Barack? Don't ask me too, I am no American & not greatly interested.
"If the bee disappears from the surface of the earth, man would have no more than four years to live. No more bees, no more pollination ... no more men!" - Einstein
"I like quoting Einstein. Know why? Because nobody dares contradict you." - Studs Terkel.
<@Ximenez> Sentynel: But i have a life? No. Qed.
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Bush at charity dinner are all fake.
I'm now an Obama fan. w00t.
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Nero Higher Spirit
What did you use to be?
And why did you change?
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I wasn't following Davos, but I know for the most part, they don't expect to be repaid. And in return many nations donated for Katrina, so it works out
Post wrote: And that is not the point! I'm being all eloquent and verbose and your dragging me down with Scientific facts! What would have happened if someone told Jesus if his body was denser than water?!
Jesus walked on water to prove that with faith in God, anything is possible and in a really roundabout way, that other peoples' opinions don't matter.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to prove with all your eloquence, but child, you know if you had an argument under that suffocating blanket of bullcabbage, you'd be using all the resources you had. ;)
wrote: I'm now an Obama fan. w00t.
Conveniently, after he won big? (edit: I joke, don't type that angry defensive comment )

btw, has anyone noticed how Obama won in all the predominantly white states? It just reinforces my belief that he's the whitest black man alive. (but he's going to bring us Change and that's what's important)
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You won because you selectively ignored most of my arguement and choosing to hit the wobbly points. <_<


Heh. No. He didn't. But let's not go there.
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Really? I heard it somewhere...I think Colbert, and some other site. 'Cos Clinton got most of the delegates in the bigger states like New York?



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...I was talking about Jesus.
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Luciene wrote: Really? I heard it somewhere...I think Colbert, and some other site. 'Cos Clinton got most of the delegates in the bigger states like New York?
Yes, Hillary won in New York n California - the 2 main big states she won. Ya n Barack Obama won in quite a few white states though mainly in the black ones. Though my father says if either Hillary or Barack come to power, they won't become Presidents as neither is a white man. Mc Cain or Mike Huckabee have a bigger chance.
"If the bee disappears from the surface of the earth, man would have no more than four years to live. No more bees, no more pollination ... no more men!" - Einstein
"I like quoting Einstein. Know why? Because nobody dares contradict you." - Studs Terkel.
<@Ximenez> Sentynel: But i have a life? No. Qed.

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