YOu should read the 'Names' thread before it went horribly off topic. ^_^ I think we kinda discussed it there. And I doubt there's anyplace between our world and their's. Kitty went to the Other Place directly.

Thanks, thats an interesting thread.

I think though, that there is something between our world and the other place. If we examine Kittys journey, then we know that she leaves her body and travels, first through our world, then reality seems to warp around her, and she experiences the full extent of all of the elements, then ends up in the other place. I think, that maybe the journey was made by both human and spirit, and they met as spirits without psysical form in our world?
I have to admit, my theory isnt sounding as strong as it did before, but still, I think something is there.

when Nat is with Whitwell he improvises a djinn so i guess they are invented by magicians, a lot are undiscovered and magicians name them

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Post, please use more than one word.

wrote: when Nat is with Whitwell he improvises a djinn so i guess they are invented by magicians, a lot are undiscovered and magicians name them

What? Where excatly are you talking about?

But yes, the djinni are forced to earth by magicians. They aren't "invented" they exsisted together in the other place.

Ianna wrote: Post, please use more than one word.

Why? It helps disguise my lack of inteligent response.

Ianna wrote:

wrote: when Nat is with Whitwell he improvises a djinn so i guess they are invented by magicians, a lot are undiscovered
and  magicians name them

What? Where excatly are you talking about?
But yes, the djinni are forced to earth by magicians. They aren't "invented" they exsisted together in the other place.

No, Nat does not improvise a djinni. He improvises a punishment that, if I remember correctly, causes an invisible hand to smack him on the rump.

Yeah, no Djinn is improvised, just a punishment. One the subjcet of whitwell though, why is it that all of her demons take the form of a bear. In AS, when Ramuthra was summoned, she summoned her Bear Djinn, then in PG she summoned an Afrit that took the form of a Bear. She has an odd affinity with them.

wrote: Why? It helps disguise my lack of inteligent response.

Because it doesn't add much to the conversation and is somewhat considered spam.

wrote: No, Nat does not improvise a djinni. He improvises a punishment that, if I remember correctly, causes an invisible hand to smack him on the rump.

Oh, yes, I remember that.

wrote:  Yeah, no Djinn is improvised, just a punishment. One the subjcet of whitwell though, why is it that all of her demons take the form of a bear. In AS, when Ramuthra was summoned, she summoned her Bear Djinn, then in PG she summoned an Afrit that took the form of a Bear. She has an odd affinity with them.

I believe that it might have been the same demon, just an error on Jonathan's part.

Otherwise she might view herself as bearlike...no idea why but there you go...

An Afrit suits her more though, she is a very potent Magician. Unless she commans all of her spirits to take on the form of a bear...

Yes, it does. I bet she could even raise a mariad by herself, if she tried.

Maybe, it would usually take 2 magicians, but Mr Button raised a Marid by himself, and it only took 4 magicians to raise Ramuthra, and most of them were fairly amature. A Marid doesnt seem beyond her capeability at all. Makes me ownder why she never tried to overthrow Deveraux, she has the power and the mind to do it, and half of the government is scared enough to follow her anyway.

wrote:Maybe, it would usually take 2 magicians, but Mr Button raised a Marid by himself, and it only took 4 magicians to raise Ramuthra, and most of them were fairly amature. A Marid doesnt seem beyond her capeability at all. Makes me ownder why she never tried to overthrow Deveraux, she has the power and the mind to do it, and half of the government is scared enough to follow her anyway.

Maybe she is more loyal than we thought.

Or, maybe what she wanted to do within the government wouldn't be able to happen if she were the leader.

I dont know, if you were the leader of the British Government, I dont think there would be much that you couldnt do...

If she was PM, she would be out there. I think she rather enjoyed being well known in power, but behind the scenes.

Yes I suppose you are right, but it surprises me that she doesnt have some measure of control over the PM, unless the PM actually is more powerful than she is.. ..

She can only get the PM to do what she wants, when she's in his favor. (I'm I'm sure she has been at times.)

PM more powerful?

Well we dont really ever get an accurate view of the PM's power. We know he has an Afrit as a body guard as the lovelace fiasco, and im betting he summoned that himself, no many magicians could do that. He also commands a lot of Horlas if im not mistaken.

wrote:Keep it to yourself, but he is rather weak. His speciality is charm, and even that he seldom bothers with now. Whe should he? He's got men in suits to do it for him..."
The magician rattled on like this for several minutes, name-dropping with tireless energy.

Simon Lovelace
-AoS Pg. 15

Yeah, the Afrit is probably the 'men in suits,' and it was probably the men in suits who did the horlas who did it too. He just relies on the inferiors.

Again, I'm going with Luciene throughout the whole arguement.

Besides, Whitwell might have had a plot going, it just didn't get put into action yet.

Oh, yes. Hammers, fluffy sacrificial rabbits and capicinos all come in... somewhere......