wrote:yes cold but true for the old testament

they are fables with morals, the morals are the important things

Actually, a lot of that stuff is historically accurate.

And I believe it. I being a christian, but hey, I have an open mind to stuff like Bartimaeus, the Da Vinci Code, and Harry Potter.

adam and eve, jhonas, noah... they never existed, the morals are important though i beleive in the new testament

Some of the Bible is fiction. Most Christians will agree with that.
Parts are history, and mostly true, and others are partly or wholly
made up. Doesn't mean it's meaningless. The general events are true,
and specific stories convey meanings. Jesus' parables (sp?) are the
same thing, but he admits they're stories.

wrote: A lot of the Bible is fiction. Most Christians will agree with that. Parts are history, and mostly true, and others are partly or wholly made up. Doesn't mean it's meaningless. The general events are true, and specific stories convey meanings. Jesus' parables (sp?) are the same thing, but he admits they're stories.

Yes, of course the parables aren't real, I agree with that.

Before we get into a big philosphy arguement....

Has anyone read Artemis Fowl or Alex Rider?

I found Alex Rider too farfetched, but I still enjoyed the one book I read.

Luciene wrote: No...they banned the movie. I guess they're very religious in those countries. I heard on the news that muslim people tried to ban it as well in India.

The catholic church, actually.

Artemis disappoints.

I've read both. Got bored with Alex Rider after a couple of books. Fowl is mostly good.

I like Fowl. Who imagined Vin Deisel as Butler? 'Cause I did.

Actually, the guy from the Hitman games. *Sigh* Opal Deception was so... so.... I can't find the words. *Kills self.*

It wasn't as good as the other 3, but by the time I got it I didn't really care. I was so desperate to read it.

Luciene wrote: I like Fowl. Who imagined Vin Deisel as Butler? 'Cause I did.

I did! I wish I could substitute that image with something else, Butler's supposed to be Eurasian.

I love the Alex Rider books, though they are far-fetched.

And Artemis Fowl was--and still is--one of my all time favorite fantasy series. Though the Opal Deception made me cry.

It was that bad?

No, just really sad.

I didn't like all the deaths either. Root was like the best character.

My Mom likes the books too.

And he was her favorite character. She didn't take it well.

Has anyone read Sabriel? I just finished it and it's awesome.

What is it? My favourite character was Arty of course. He so obnoxious with his tea.

I havent read The Opal Deception yet, i liked the other books though. I think one of the books that I like the most that is similar is Lord of the Rings (yes, i know that that is actually six books). Harry Potter is just amazing, and the Eragon series is good, although it could be accused of being an allagory.

As for the whole Da Vinic Code thing, I read it, and I thought it was a good book. The church is over reacting, its not as if the book is telling people no to be Christian.

I read Lotr as well. I liked the ending. It's better than the movies, 'cause it explains so much more.

Yeah, and when you read it, you discover so much more.