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Somewhere in the US. Their hosting company is based in Texas, but that doesn't necessarily mean the datacentre is there.
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I see.
Hmm.
To the topic... is anyone seeing some interesting similarities to FDR in Obama?
I used to like FDR, before I learned (more) politics.
Now I'm tired of them all.
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Dansariki wrote:I see.
Hmm.
To the topic... is anyone seeing some interesting similarities to FDR in Obama?
I used to like FDR, before I learned (more) politics.
Now I'm tired of them all.
Similarities such as?
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Spending, spending, spending.
Democrat.
Difficult economy.
Similar measures to help.
Similar success rate. (Half and half, seems like, I haven't analyzed it closely)
Edit: Analyzed FDR's closely, that is.
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Wasn't FDR the guy who talked smut and then married the US Trade Deficit?


And a 'kill switch' on the internet? Most countries can shut down their internal service providers if they want to, but kill the internet? Impossible.
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Apparently Iggy's withdrew his party's support for the government and it's up to Duceppe and Layton to stop an election...

C'mon guys, you couldn't have waited another eleven months? I wanna vote!


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FuzzyLobster wrote:Apparently Iggy's withdrew his party's support for the government and it's up to Duceppe and Layton to stop an election...

C'mon guys, you couldn't have waited another eleven months? I wanna vote!
WTF? Another election?
That's what it looks like it's coming to.

*is too lazy to look up exactly what they're fighting over*


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Post wrote:Kill the internet? Impossible.
I want to see them try, and fail xD
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"Is to lazy to find out who is trying to kill the net"
Are you talking about net neutrality D.C.?
Or is it the government and if so which one?


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They are talking about Obama.
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No, it's some clause in a bill that allows, in theory, the president the power to shut down internet.
Reading it, I don't think it'd work, and I think it's overblown.
By no means do I like it, but it's just not feasible.
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Well, America does control enough root servers to cripple the net.
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Dansariki wrote:No, it's some clause in a bill that allows, in theory, the president the power to shut down internet.
Reading it, I don't think it'd work, and I think it's overblown.
By no means do I like it, but it's just not feasible.
It allows the President to take control of any individual threatened system, not to shut down the entire internet. It's still not a good idea, but it's not quite that drastic.
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Hmph. What about checks and balances though? Maybe we should have a separate secretary of the internet. >.>
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/us/04school.html?_r=2

OH NO. ITS THE INVASION OF THE EVIL SOCIALISTS. :rolleyes:
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Nero wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/us/04school.html?_r=2

OH NO. ITS THE INVASION OF THE EVIL SOCIALISTS. :rolleyes:
It wants me to login, can you quote the article contents?
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Nero wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/us/04school.html?_r=2

OH NO. ITS THE INVASION OF THE EVIL SOCIALISTS. :rolleyes:
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Some Parents Oppose Obama School Speech

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By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr. and SAM DILLON
Published: September 3, 2009

HOUSTON — President Obama’s plan to deliver a speech to public school students on Tuesday has set off a revolt among conservative parents, who have accused the president of trying to indoctrinate their children with socialist ideas and are asking school officials to excuse the children from listening.
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The uproar over the speech, in which Mr. Obama intends to urge students to work hard and stay in school, has been particularly acute in Texas, where several major school districts, under pressure from parents, have laid plans to let children opt out of lending the president an ear.

Some parents said they were concerned because the speech had not been screened for political content. Nor, they said, had it been reviewed by the State Board of Education and local school boards, which, under state law, must approve the curriculum.

“The thing that concerned me most about it was it seemed like a direct channel from the president of the United States into the classroom, to my child,” said Brett Curtis, an engineer from Pearland, Tex., who said he would keep his three children home.

“I don’t want our schools turned over to some socialist movement.”

The White House has said the speech will emphasize the importance of education and hard work in school, both to the individual and to the nation. The message is not partisan, nor compulsory, officials said.

“This isn’t a policy speech,” said Sandra Abrevaya, a spokeswoman for the Department of Education. “It’s designed to encourage kids to stay in school. The choice on whether to show the speech to students is entirely in the hands of each school. This is absolutely voluntary.”

Mr. Obama’s speech was announced weeks ago, but the furor among conservatives reached a fever pitch Wednesday morning as right-wing Web sites and talk show hosts began inveighing against it.

Mark Steyn, a Canadian author and political commentator, speaking on the Rush Limbaugh show on Wednesday, accused Mr. Obama of trying to create a cult of personality, comparing him to Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-il, the North Korean leader.

The Republican Party chairman in Florida, Jim Greer, said he “was appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology.”

And Chris Stigall, a Kansas City talk show host, said, “I wouldn’t let my next-door neighbor talk to my kid alone; I’m sure as hell not letting Barack Obama talk to him alone.”

Previous presidents have visited public schools to speak directly to students, although few of those events have been broadcast live. Mr. Obama’s address at noon, Eastern time, at a high school in Virginia, will be streamed live on the White House Web site.

The first President George Bush, a Republican, made a similar nationally broadcast speech from a Washington high school in 1991, urging students to study hard, avoid drugs and to ignore peers “who think it’s not cool to be smart.” Democrats in Congress accused him of using taxpayer money — $27,000 to produce the broadcast — for “paid political advertising.”

This week, school officials were hearing from parents about the issue not only in Texas, but in other parts of the country as well — California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, South Carolina and Utah.

Herb Garrett, executive director of the Georgia School Superintendents Association, said many of his members felt that the controversy had put them in an awkward situation, vulnerable to attacks from conservative talk-show hosts if they open up instructional time for Mr. Obama’s speech, and open to accusations that they have disrespected the president if they do not.

“It’s one of those no-wins,” Mr. Garrett said.

In Texas, calls and e-mail messages flooded into the offices of many local school officials. “I didn’t get a positive call all day,” said Susan Dacus, a spokeswoman for the Wylie Independent School District outside Dallas.

School officials in Wylie decided to record the speech, review it and then let individual teachers show it, offering students the opportunity to avoid listening if they wished.

In Houston, teachers have been asked to tell parents if they intend to show the speech and the schools will provide an alternative class for those whose parents object, a spokesman for the district, Lee Vela, said.

Some Houston parents, however, said telling children they should not hear out the president of the United States, even if their parents dislike his policies, sends the wrong message — that one should not listen to someone with whom you disagree.

“It’s difficult for me to understand how listening to the president, the commander in chief, the chief citizen of this country, is damaging to the youth of today,” said Phyllis Griffin Epps, an analyst for the city who has two children in public school.
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While were on the subject of the suficatioin of one of the still publicly free meida, youtube: net neutrality


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/facepalm

"Stay in school, kids!" "YOU'RE BRAINWASHING MY CHILDREN WITH YOUR SOCIALIST IDEAS!" "No, I'm trying to encourage the nation's children to get a good education!" "YOU WANT TO CREATE A CULT OF PERSONALITY LIKE KIM JONG-IL OR SADDAM HUSSEIN!?" "No! Here's a ball, go and bounce it, you moron!"

(That was so nearly a Godwin. Seriously.)

Especially when the article points out the first George Bush said almost the same frigging thing.
And points out the left raged in a similar way at the time. Ugh. Politicians are ridiculous.
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