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Phoenix Utukku
2 Oct 06 - 08:47
I dunno, I always saw Nathaniel as the main character. After all, everything is centered around him, Barti carried out *his* plan and ideas.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
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Post Higher Spirit
2 Oct 06 - 09:00
First Person View.
Shame of the Super Son
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Ianna Marid
2 Oct 06 - 11:13
That's only to mix it up.

It's Nat's story and Bartimaeus and Kitty are really just the two big influeneces in his life and the reasons why he did things.

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set Gryffindors apart."


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Luciene Higher Spirit
5 Oct 06 - 21:21
Do you think Lovelace was a kind of role model for younger Nat?
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Phoenix Utukku
16 Oct 06 - 21:48
Of course he was. Even if neither wanted such thing. He was the magician he grew up with.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
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Sentynel One with The Other Place
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16 Oct 06 - 23:20
Nathaniel hardly grew up with Lovelace... he met him a couple of times and that was about it.
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Post Higher Spirit
17 Oct 06 - 09:19
No to mention had him spanked by a imp.
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Sentynel One with The Other Place
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17 Oct 06 - 13:18
Quite. Hardly the sort of person he's going to want to be like.
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Phoenix Utukku
17 Oct 06 - 19:35
Yet John Mandrake is almost exactly like Lovelace.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
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Sentynel One with The Other Place
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17 Oct 06 - 20:35
He's like every powerful magician. He didn't set out to become like Lovelace, he set out to better the other government magicians.
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19 Oct 06 - 12:34
He was a noble man, on the quest for justice.
Guess thats why he died! :lol:
One magician demanded i show him the love of his life. I rustled up a mirror.
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Sentynel One with The Other Place
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19 Oct 06 - 12:40
John Mandrake was far from noble. Only Nat was noble.
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Phoenix Utukku
19 Oct 06 - 18:47
More to the point, John was like every ambitious magician. Regardless, the Lovelace-Mandrake similarities *were* intentional.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
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20 Oct 06 - 05:18
wrote:More to the point, John was like every ambitious magician. Regardless, the Lovelace-Mandrake similarities *were* intentional.
im supposing you used *were* because both of 'em are dead?
One magician demanded i show him the love of his life. I rustled up a mirror.
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Phoenix Utukku
20 Oct 06 - 11:29
No, because Nathaniel beat John Mandrake at the end, and because Stroud is not currently writing his character.
wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.
10 Jul 07 - 18:12
In the author's opinion Barti is the main character, but I've always felt that even though I don't like Nat, that he was who the story was about.
:new:
This is me getting back to the orininal topic
life is odd. you come in, you grow, you shrivel, and you leave.
i mean what's the point????
3 Sep 07 - 14:15
Amulet of Samarkand, the main character was Nat
Golems Eye: Kitty
Ptolemy's gate: Bart
or at least that's how I see it...
Run, run as fast as you can...
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Apollo Marid
3 Sep 07 - 18:06
1: Nathaniel, Bartimaeus.
2. Nathaniel, Bartimaeus, Kitty.
3. Nathaniel, Bartimaeus, Kitty. (maybe a bit of Ptolemy, too.)
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
3 Sep 07 - 18:09
Eh, idk bout Ptolemy in PG. Yes, his name's in the title, but in reality the flashbacks are explaining more about why Bartimaeus cared for Ptolemy so much... I see it as a plot tool more than a main character.
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DaAlCh Mouler
11 Sep 07 - 23:28
Book 1: The main characters were Nat and Bart, but the character Stroud focused on more was Nat.

Book 2: The main characters were Nat, Bart and Kitty, Stroud focused on Kitty more than the other two.

Book 3: The main characters were Nat, Bart and Kitty, but Bart was the character Stroud focused on in this book.

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