Just wondering what you guys thought! Personally I like the first choice.....

None of the above. It was good, but it doesn't mean I think "Yay, Nat's finally dead!"

It was a great ending, I like how they killed off one of the main characters. I would have liked Nat to live, but the ending just wouldn't have been as good.

It would have been better had Kitty died.

And Nat lived.

hi, i am feeling really very odd writing coz this is the first time and weird as it may seem, am absolutely new to all this. have just finished the trilogy and though when i started, it didnt fascinate me all that much and then zap, it jumped at me and clung like hot wax. i was upset that nat died and that was what prompted me to seek this site out and make the effort to write. i dont know whether or not mr. stroud would even read my mail , let alone write back, but since i wanted to wite, so i have.

Hey, welcome to the fourm.

I'm Ianna.

Sentynel wrote: None of the above. It was good, but it doesn't mean I think "Yay, Nat's finally dead!"

I totally agree... I really liked the ending.. but I dont jubilate that nat died....
Your poll-options are certainly biased ;)

You can't have that avatar... That's my avatar!

I found that tears sprung to my eyes at the every end of Ptolemy's Gate. i had gotten to know Nat so well and then he died.

Post wrote: You can't have that avatar... That's my avatar!

I know, I know.. and I am very sorry... I changed it instantly when I notoced it.. hope that's better now...
I'll change it anyways when I am back at my college pc.. upload my custom one :D



Yeah.. I was really sad too, when Nat died... but it seems correct.. Just imagine him stepping out of the flames (unharmed).. as the total hero... that would have been too kitchy

Now we have a very sad ending.. but a good one.. It fits perfectly into Nat's behaviour. At first he was a power-hungry youngster, only looking for his own profit... he would never given up his life to save his country... but he changed.. he saw Kitty and her beliefs and became less selfish. The ending he met, show that he really meant this change and that he was consequent in his whole becoming-a-better-person-attitude.

I'm not exactly sure what I think of the ending. Personally, i think it was great that he killed off one of the main characters, but i still would've really liked Nat to live...even if he is a prat... :D
Maybe he left the end off just so that readers could sort of make their own predictions on what happened after Nouda and the staff, but that's just my opinion.

wrote:I found that tears sprung to my eyes at the every end of Ptolemy's Gate. i had gotten to know Nat so well and then he died.

Great.

The traitor describes what I feel.

It was a brilliant ending, if I do say so myself. No tears, because I'm me, but I swear I sat there in stunned shock for five straight minutes, staring at the page.

I've never felt so cold in my life, but it was in a weird way. My tears were cold and slow...and I too was shocked.

gargmanika30 wrote: hi, i am feeling really very odd writing coz this is the first time and weird as it may seem, am absolutely new to all this. have just finished the trilogy and though when i started, it didnt fascinate me all that much and then zap, it jumped at me and clung like hot wax. i was upset that nat died and that was what prompted me to seek this site out and make the effort to write. i dont know whether or not mr. stroud would even read my mail , let alone write back, but since i wanted to wite, so i have.

Hey, I am a first timer too. I was really shocked Nat died. Esp after he turned good. It took me more than an hour to complete the last ten pages or so(& I am a very fast reader). I was just shaking and crying at the same time & rereading the same lines. And Nat after all gave Bartimaeus his last gift. He just SHOULD'NT have died!

I thought it was ok that Nat. died, It was kinda fair cuz he maked Barti suffer through the whole book. It would have been better without he dieing, but i loved it.. made you a little shocked and it made him a noble hero who offered his life to rescue his friends.

To those who say hes alive:
Within the logical confines of the Bartimaeus world, id like someone to explain how he would not be dead.

I expect the explination to be indepth and have supporting details from within the text.

To those who say hes dead:
Cheer up, Emo kid.

Excalibur wrote: To those who say hes alive:
Within the logical confines of the Bartimaeus world, id like someone to explain how he would not be dead.

I expect the explination to be indepth and have supporting details from within the text.

To those who say hes dead:
Cheer up, Emo kid.

I seriously think Nat is truly dead. Jonathan Stroud wanted the book to weigh heavily in our minds for a couple of centuries. That could only be acheived by killing off the main character. Though I would have preffered if Kitty had died, though I agree it would'nt make sense.

The point of that post is this:
I read SO MANY FANFICS where hes just magically alive. And not in the Bartimaeus magic way either. They make some half assed excuse and call it logistical, and ive thought about it. I cant come up with a way, in the confines of the way magic works in the bartimaeus world, how Nathaniel would still be alive. And yet these fan fic writers think: Hmm no one cares if my story makes any sense compared to what the original thim im writing about is.

Honestly, i dont mind if someone does their own thing with the story. I rather like that. But when you choose to write a fanfic, you commit yourself to the rules of that world.
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I personally think that he is dead. That was the weight of that last chapter. The words exchanged, Kitty's reaction, the way everything went, if Nathaniel was alive it would upset the carefully put and balanced way everything ended.

He must have died.. Noone would have a chance to survive that.
If you're not sure, ask Mr. Stroud. ;)