Bartiforums

25 Sep 06 - 20:12

wrote:Faquarl is the exception as far as what we see in the trilogy goes. It's a correlation based on the data we have, not an absolute fact.

Thing is, we don't *have* that much data. Most of the spirits we deal with are djinni. We've seen an insane afrit, and 2 higher spirits, one in the process of being summoned, the other one appeared fairly smart until he was smashing a teddy bear (because of the pain ._.).

Oh, we've also dealt with foliots and imps, and they seem smart enough, not as witty as Barti, but then again, Barti *is* an exception, we've seen a fair deal of retard djinni.

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

Artemis Afrit

26 Sep 06 - 01:20

Actually not many of the DJINNI we've seen are stupid. It's really only Jabor, mostly the spirits described as "dumb" are foliots and imps, with the occasional Afrit.

I say night I'm living in the forest of my dream,
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.

Laura Branigan, Self-control

Oh, Canada...

Mwamba Higher Spirit

26 Sep 06 - 01:26

And the Uttukus.

Barti really isn't credible in determining the spirit rank intellegence though.

流口水的婊子和猴子的笨儿子。

Ocean-Beauty Mite

26 Sep 06 - 15:18

Well, I have also been a little disapointed with the last book. After everything they had been through I expected at least a partially happy ending. I mean, we don't really know what happened to Bart, Kitty, etc. It's like it was left in the wind. I liked the plot and the ending(without the Nat dying part) but it would have beengreat if it wasn't the last book. So..

Ianna Marid

26 Sep 06 - 20:29

When I was saying that, I wasn't implying all afrits or mariads were stupid.

Look at Horionous, he just went mad.

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."

Artemis Afrit

27 Sep 06 - 18:16

Poor guy. Gladstone was such an ass to his Djinni, if I were Honorius I probably would've self-destructed.

I say night I'm living in the forest of my dream,
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.

Laura Branigan, Self-control

Oh, Canada...

rubberchickenben Marid

27 Sep 06 - 20:47

Hey Art, Honorious was an afrit, not a djinni.

I wish I were a cat-dragon

Phoenix Utukku

28 Sep 06 - 02:55

Do you remember that afrit in Prague that almost killed Barti? First chapter of the Golem's Eye? He was as witty as Barti himself.

And Honorius seemed smart enough, just a tad mad.

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

Post Higher Spirit

28 Sep 06 - 04:25

Law of Averages, Barti won't be most witty.

Shame of the Super Son

rubberchickenben Marid

28 Sep 06 - 21:30

I actually think that the afrit in Prague was Honorious. There's no proof, so my friends don't believe me.

I wish I were a cat-dragon

Phoenix Utukku

28 Sep 06 - 22:39

It could've been. But there were other afrits, so it's speculation at best -_- It'd be a good thing to ask Stroud, though.

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

Sentynel One with The Other Place

admin

29 Sep 06 - 20:08

It was one of Gladstone's two bodyguard afrits. Whether it was Honorius or the other one (can't remember his name) we don't know.

Sentynel - Head Ninja, Admin, Keeper of the Ban Afrit, Official Forum Graphics Guy, and forum code debugger.
A still more glorious dawn awaits, not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise, a morning filled with 400 billion suns - the rising of the Milky Way

Post Higher Spirit

30 Sep 06 - 04:22

He had three, Honorius, Patterknife and... Something.

Shame of the Super Son

Phoenix Utukku

30 Sep 06 - 05:43

How do we know it was one of Gladstone's personal afrits?

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

Sentynel One with The Other Place

admin

30 Sep 06 - 14:47

Cos it says so.
Gladstone just had the two bodyguard afrits, Honorius and Patterknife.

Sentynel - Head Ninja, Admin, Keeper of the Ban Afrit, Official Forum Graphics Guy, and forum code debugger.
A still more glorious dawn awaits, not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise, a morning filled with 400 billion suns - the rising of the Milky Way

Post Higher Spirit

30 Sep 06 - 15:18

Three.

Shame of the Super Son

rubberchickenben Marid

30 Sep 06 - 17:37

I think there were only two, and were described as "savage afrits".

I wish I were a cat-dragon

Phoenix Utukku

1 Oct 06 - 14:10

wrote:Gladstone just had the two bodyguard afrits, Honorius and Patterknife.

Correction. Gladstone had 2 bodyguard afrits, but there were marids in his army, which logically means there were also afrits in his army. Those 2 were simply his personal ones, but the afrit that broke in could've been anyone.

Also, I've been re-reading AoS, and we really have no basis saying Ramuthra was dumb. It was his first summoning ever, and he was still geting used to the earthly constraints and whatnot.

Also: "I see no woman, only a grinning djinn" <--- seems witty enough to me.

wrote:According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

Sentynel One with The Other Place

admin

1 Oct 06 - 15:02

It implies that the afrit is one of Gladstone's personal bodyguards, rather than some random afrit in his army. Gladstone probably wouldn't have summoned any more troops than his personal afrits and some marids - even he isn't strong enough to summon that many on his own.

Come on, what would Barti have said in that situation? "I see no woman, only a grinning djinni" is a plain statement of fact.

Sentynel - Head Ninja, Admin, Keeper of the Ban Afrit, Official Forum Graphics Guy, and forum code debugger.
A still more glorious dawn awaits, not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise, a morning filled with 400 billion suns - the rising of the Milky Way

Post Higher Spirit

1 Oct 06 - 15:04

First summoning and it's already learned english...

Shame of the Super Son

bit disapointed

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