A comparison between Deathly Hallows & Ptolemy's G

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AkRene Foliot
I see nothing in commen between Snape and Nathaniel.
( If there's bidding to be done, I'll take Ianna for :cookie::cookie: and give her back her freedom.)
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Crazier than Honorius.
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Ianna Marid
wrote:1. Both were hated by the common mass ( Nat becoz he was a magician & Snape- u know).
2. Both turned bad due to bad company (Nat was alright in book 1 & Snape was 24/7 surrounded by death eaters who influenzed his thoughts a lot).
3. Both in the end, turned up against their kind (Snape betrayed the death Eaters & Nat the magicians (in a way)).
4. Nat loved a commaner while Snape a mudblood (sorry!)
5. Both were killed trying to destroy evil.
6 The 2 of them were very talented from a young age.
7. Both tried to protect their loved ones.
1. Nat was actually popular among the commoners, until the end. Snape was never liked, except by Lily and death eaters.
2. Nat turned bad by choice, in my opinion. Sure, he had bad examples, but I think his adventure showed him another way. Of course, Snape did too, but Snape had better influences.
3. Nat defiantly did not turn against the magicians, he turned against the demons inside the magicians.
4. Nat didn't love Kitty, he barely knew her.
5. Agree, but so was almost everyone who died in DH (some in PG).
6. Agree, but it was two different things, really.
7. True, but this to is different. The way it was carried out was so vastly different this could be a comparison between anyone in DH almost to Nat.

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."


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Luciene Higher Spirit
AkRene wrote: ( If there's bidding to be done, I'll take Ianna for :cookie::cookie: and give her back her freedom.)
Do I here 3 :cookie: ?..Going once...?

1. I think "only hated by the DEs and Lily" is a very broad statement. Like, the magicians of Nat's time, the DE were very influential. And they magicians weren't the most moral people either, so in a way they are similar.

2. Obviously, since the story follows Nat and he is a part narrator, he would be shown in a better light than Snape. But the fact remains that the core of their characters are similar. In the end, although both of them did evil, they were shown to be decent people.
wrote:4. Nat didn't love Kitty, he barely knew her.
Amen...Meh, I'll reply to the rest later. No doubt all of you will wait with bated breath for my brilliant comebacks ;)
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Ianna Marid
I bid eight!

I said liked. True, true.

Yes, I will and I'll reply more throughly, but I have to go.

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."


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Artemis Afrit
Anything I could have said, Ianna has already said.

I always thought Snape was rather like Doctor House. Unpleasant, in pain, but brilliant.

Or like Elphaba, for those of you who have read Wicked.

Nat is more like an intelligent politician (Yes, I know, nowadays most will consider this an oxymoron) he has brains, but he simply uses them to move up in the ranks and when he reaches the top, worries someone will push him off his thrown. (I had a character in mind I was going to compare Nat too, but said character has escaped me, at the moment.)
I say night I'm living in the forest of my dream,
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.


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Post Higher Spirit
The idea behind them is eventual redemption, but they are not similar unless it's in the broadest strokes.
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Ianna Marid
For once....I agree with Post.


"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."


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AkRene Foliot
What?....You agreed with Post? (Looks outside the window and sees pigs flying.) Yep, the end of the world is near.
Okay, I see your point, Nat and Snape do have similarities.
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"Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic."
Crazier than Honorius.
Luciene wrote: As a person, I think John Mandrake would have been slightly more fun to chill with, but Severus is much more...amazinglycoolsexgodthatsufferedunrequitedlove?

WinterTabby, back me up here :P
I agreee with everything. =D Nothing much to add.

Post's post pretty much sums up the only major similarity for me.

I never thought of Snape as Elphaba, that's interesting. I can't think of any literary parallels for Sev...maybe Hamlet? Not sure.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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Post Higher Spirit
wrote:What?....You agreed with Post? (Looks outside the window and sees pigs flying.) Yep, the end of the world is near.
Sometimes, the Planets align. ;)


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Ianna Marid
And then they explode.

Six thousand cookies!

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."


Hell's freezing over.

Speaking of things ____-ing over, did anyone hear about that bridge in the U.S. that fell?
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Queezle7 Horla
Okay. Now we are totally and completely off topic.
Look, Queezle.
That's ok.
Post wrote:Sometimes, the Planets align
Mars is bright tonight...
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Ianna Marid
Yes.

Back on topic, I don't really see comparisons between the two books that aren't incredibly broad.

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."


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Post Higher Spirit
rubberchickenben wrote: Speaking of things ____-ing over, did anyone hear about that bridge in the U.S. that fell?
Bridges collapse all the time. ;) Was it a major one?
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It was a major highway bridge in Minnesota.
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Wammy Foliot
Yes I have. There was also one here, and whales. I don't think DH and PG are really similar.
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Artemis Afrit
WinterTabby wrote:
Luciene wrote: As a person, I think John Mandrake would have been slightly more fun to chill with, but Severus is much more...amazinglycoolsexgodthatsufferedunrequitedlove?

WinterTabby, back me up here :P
I agreee with everything. =D Nothing much to add.

Post's post pretty much sums up the only major similarity for me.

I never thought of Snape as Elphaba, that's interesting. I can't think of any literary parallels for Sev...maybe Hamlet? Not sure.
Well, think about it.

They're both good, but viewed as evil, both are highly intelligent and have radical ideas, they both don't socialize well, they both have a rather satirical sense of humour...
I say night I'm living in the forest of my dream,
I know the night is not as it would seem,
I must believe in something,
So I'll make myself believe it,
That this night will never go.


Laura Branigan, Self-control

:mouth: Oh, Canada...

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