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I mean, the guy isn't that good...he steals almost every concepts from every other book...what you can understand about his vocabulary that is not derived from the least used word in a thesaurus is boring...Eldest was about the slowest paced piece of crap ever...in the entire second book, nothing at all happens...he trains...his back is healed...he looks different...he finds out ONE important thing...plus, oh no, she's a princess?

Do you think it's his age or something? I write better than him...I'm thirteen years old...my stories are so much more original they put everything about his books to shame...there is nothing good about him. He's taking advantage of Tolkien's fans...

I like them, but i do know what you mean about useing ideas from other works but most books do.


I also like your modesty, lol

Look at the barti trilogy,

what does it involve thats been heard of before:

Magicians
Djinnis - Magical beings

But, things like Auras, and planes, and i guess pentacles havnt been in some famous books before... :barti:

Auras in particular, planes to some extent, although generally not implemented in the same way as in Barti, and pentacles are all used in other books and standard magical mythology.

Originality is relative. Barti contains very, very few original ideas in terms of physical things (pentacles, spirits, magicians, planes, etc) - but telling the story from the point of view of the spirit hasn't been done before, AFAIK. That and the writing are what makes Barti good books.
Whereas Inheritance doesn't have an especially original setting - fantasy land with elves and dwarves and dragons - some of the physical content is. Languages, the magic system, the Ra'zac, some of the characters, etc, are done differently from the standard fantasy.
The vocabulary is fine - 'what you can understand of it' - eh? If you're struggling to understand some of it, maybe that's why you think it's boring - or am I misunderstanding you?
As for pacing... a book doesn't have to cram hundreds of major events in to be interesting.

Let's see...the elves and dwarves from Tolkien...hell, about half of his book is from Tolkien...I believe some book called 'something-something-DragonRiders' has the intelligent dragon with a mental connection...he's a farmer boy who must beat an evil king...

And Sentynel, I'd rather read a fast paced book then hear about how he's drawing with his mind. Maybe that's just me. If you go around the net, you can find just how many things about Paolini's books are blatantly ripped from other books. Bartimaeus Trilogy has a storyline that hasn't been done before...my idea of originality is mostly about the storyline, then it goes off into characters, villains, settings, etc.

I do understand Paolini, but Stephen King said it's better to say 'he took a crap' than 'he halted for a moment to perform an act of excretion'.

The magic system isn't all that original...the idea has been done before, and it's not like he writes page after page of his magic language...he has about thirty or so sentences in each book. It's not like it's that complicated to make your own language, but it's an okay feat...but it's not worthy of that being part of the reason he's famous.

And what 'languages'? And the use of magic isn't that original...maybe I'm way too creative(:)) but I don't think it's all that when you go 'oh, maybe he'll use a language and drain some of his power to perform magic' or make the Ra'zac. Maybe my standards are too high, but I much rather prefer Stroud over Paolini.

As for 'most books do derive from other books', yes, that's true. I kinda took a bit from Garth Nix in my story, but the runes were actually made like that so it's not like I'm ripping off his charter marks...but I doubt many authors have taken as many ideas from other writers as Paolini. He even admits it. And as for the fact that the teenagers talk like adults for some reason(when was the last time you heard someone say 'adjacent' instead of 'near'? I can pass this off because the people in my stories are pretty much geniuses because they're ancient, but Eragon is pretty much a home-schooled farmer boy...)

Paolini also said he wrote Eragon with the intention of it being a movie. :\

I just dislike the attention he's getting, especially if it's mostly about his age. Age is one of the most irrelevant things there is, except when it comes to things like alcohol and whatnot. Didn't Beethoven write his first symphony at six years of age? There are prodigies...I dislike how people call Paolini a 'genius', when he hasn't done anything but replace every word in his story with the least used word in the thesaurus.

He also said it took him a month to plan it out...a mentally handicapped three-year old can think up creatures like the Ra'zac in a month and steal from other stories(if this mentally handicapped three-year old could read). There is hardly anything in that book you can't think up if you sit down for three minutes.

paolini lacks the something to put him in a class of greats, however, he is good at attractin certain audiences, mostly obsessive fan people, but still.

Yes, Stroud is better than Paolini. Yes, Barti is more original than Inheritance. Yes, he doesn't deserve all the attention he's getting, and he doesn't deserve genius status. But they're still good books.

I want to meet your reading, book-writing mentally handicapped three year old.


I am a fast reader, so I might tolerate slow pacing better than others... maybe.

I'm sorry, you can't meet that mentally handicapped kid, he's too busy writing classic novels. They're good books, but seriously don't deserve their status. If his parents didn't own a publishing company, he would've got a crap load of rejections. Word.

I love them personally. I admit that some parts are predictable, and much of it was taken from others. However, not all of the LOTR ideas and characters are origional. for example, gollum was based on some poem and the elves were based on norse mythology.

:jay: I believe he was quoted as saying he based his work off of Tolkien and others. I'll buy the third book, but they're still only mediocre.

like I said, tolkien based lots of his stuff on others' work, and look how they went down...

Tolkien was not as obvious and was much more subtle. His storytelling was based off others, but so are many others, but a lot of it was his own. About 10% of Paolini's stuff is him not basing it off something else, if that.

granted, but just cause tolkein found some old obscure stuff and descreatly copied it, does it make it that much better?

I read Eragon and Eldest but I'm pretty much nuetral. Well, cept' that his(Paolini's ideas are standard for almost anyone writing fantasies. The whole thing about dragons and elves. *shrugs* Pretty much "old news". Don't kill me! XD

*sets afrit on the Alchemist* :P

Yeah, the basic setting is fairly standard, but the implementation is a little different, at least.

1. I hardly believe mythology that is known by millions is 'obscure'.
2. Tolkien brought them together in a way no one had before. He mixed them in a way that set a new path for fantasy. Many people touched on his subjects...Paolini basically stole his ideas.
3. Afrits.

Krim wrote: Afrits.

Afrits what?

Afrits.

They're good books, but way overhyped. He's not exactly a great author... yet. He's only twenty-one or so, and when you count in the factor that most authors aren't even published until their thirties or forties, he's got a lot of potential.

I've read Eragon but not Eldest, though it's not something I'm going to reread.

I mean, it reads so much like LotR. I remember Stroud saying something like, "LotR was a good book, but it led fantasy into bad habits." I think this is just an example of this. It's... kind of dull.

Why do people say he has 'a lot of potential'? Everyone has a lot of potential, for god's sake. I have the great potential to be a ballerina if I work for it...there is a twelve-year-old writer that has a name I don't recall, and her stories are decent. Paolini doesn't deserve any recognition, especially for his age. I know plenty of young authors on his level or higher.