The Ring Of Solomon Discussion

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29 Apr 10 - 10:05
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stuffing Mouler
29 Apr 10 - 19:31
So does anyone want to speculate on what the book will be about? Will it take place in Solomon's time? Will familiar djinn characters like Farquarl and Queezle show up? What do you guys think?

Also:
wrote:Don't you find it confusing? I get muddled sometimes between British and American English. In spite of learning British English in school. But most of the books that I refer for Microbiology (95% of which are by foreign authors) are written by Americans.
Nathanielandbartimaeus, are you a microbiologist? Because so am I, and that would be the weirdest coincidence.
Honorious Mouler
29 Apr 10 - 19:59
maybe that one Queezel will be the star and bartimaeus will be a secondary character, or she might be a co-star because it HAS to be bartimaeus. Maybe Ptolmey gets the ring of soloman and stuff like that or its in the prague war...
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29 Apr 10 - 21:29
Yah Bartimaeus gets mixed up with the Ring of Solomon. Since it supposedly did something along the lines of mass spirit summoning, I imagine we'll see characters we met in the trilogy.
stuffing Mouler
29 Apr 10 - 23:04
You know, there's a middle eastern legend where a demon named Sakhr (one of Bart's names!) tricks one of Solomon's concubines into giving him Solomon's ring, and uses it to take over his kingdom. He reigns for forty days, then throws the ring into the ocean. It gets eaten by a fish, which is found by Solomon who has been reduced to a beggar. Solomon then regains his kingdom and tosses Sakhr into a lake. The demon later gets released by a fisherman when he shows up again in Arabian nights.

Maybe the new story will somehow involve this legend?
30 Apr 10 - 00:46
Bart has mentioned in his footnotes how one time we was trapped in a bottle and floated on the Red Sea for a long time but was finally rescued by a fisherman.
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30 Apr 10 - 07:38
stuffing wrote:Nathanielandbartimaeus, are you a microbiologist? Because so am I, and that would be the weirdest coincidence.
Hey, nice to have someone else doing microbiology here! But are you a microbiologist, as in, you work or do research or something? I'm just studying microbiology. I finished two years of it (BSc). So no, I won't call myself a microbiologist. If I complete my MSc in it, possibly :P. But I'm planning to do molecular biology for my MSc (provided I enter and pass my TYBSc).

And call me n&b. And I see you are a Canadian. We have loads of them here :P .

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30 Apr 10 - 08:34
stuffing wrote:You know, there's a middle eastern legend where a demon named Sakhr (one of Bart's names!) tricks one of Solomon's concubines into giving him Solomon's ring, and uses it to take over his kingdom. He reigns for forty days, then throws the ring into the ocean. It gets eaten by a fish, which is found by Solomon who has been reduced to a beggar. Solomon then regains his kingdom and tosses Sakhr into a lake. The demon later gets released by a fisherman when he shows up again in Arabian nights.

Maybe the new story will somehow involve this legend?
I hope not cause then you just spoiled the book. Lol jk. But barti hs mentioned that ring a couple times and once he said he through it into an ocean
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30 Apr 10 - 08:43
If that happens, it would seem rather like the Percy Jackson series where the author uses historical myths and modifies them to suit the story.
Anyway, if Bart is the djinn, then Arabian nights definitely wouldn't feature in it. Oh wait, it would be nice to think of the spirit in Arabian Nights as Bartimaues!
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stuffing Mouler
30 Apr 10 - 16:14
nathanielandbartimaeus wrote:
stuffing wrote:Nathanielandbartimaeus, are you a microbiologist? Because so am I, and that would be the weirdest coincidence.
Hey, nice to have someone else doing microbiology here! But are you a microbiologist, as in, you work or do research or something? I'm just studying microbiology. I finished two years of it (BSc). So no, I won't call myself a microbiologist. If I complete my MSc in it, possibly :P. But I'm planning to do molecular biology for my MSc (provided I enter and pass my TYBSc).

And call me n&b. And I see you are a Canadian. We have loads of them here :P .
That's because Canadians are awesome. ;) I'm still in school too, graduating next semester. Nice to meet you!
wrote: I hope not cause then you just spoiled the book. Lol jk. But barti hs mentioned that ring a couple times and once he said he through it into an ocean
Oops! No, actually I think Stroud will probably set the book later than Solomon's time. I'm betting Bart will reference the legend in the footnotes, though.

Actually, that's an interesting question - since this is a prequel, does that mean the story isn't going to be urban fantasy like the rest of the trilogy? If so, the feel of the story would be quite different, I think.
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30 Apr 10 - 23:07
If your view of urban is 10th century urban than yes, it is likely urban fantasy. :P

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2 May 10 - 12:29
I've split off the off-topic microbiology discussion into its own thread in General Chat. Come on, guys, this is the discussion thread for the upcoming book, can we at least try and keep this thread of all the ones in the forum on topic?


Brief on-topic bit from one of the split posts:
stuffing wrote:So then do you think the prequel will take place in the tenth century?

I just found this summary on Amazon:
Bartimaeus, everyone's favorite (wise-cracking) djinni, is back in book four of this best-selling series. As alluded to in the footnotes throughout the series, Bartimaeus has served hundreds of magicians during his 5,010 year career. Now, for the first time, fans will go back in time with the djinni, to Jerusalem and the court of King Solomon in 950s BC. Only in this adventure, it seems the great Bartimaeus has finally met his match. He'll have to contend with an unpleasant master and his sinister servant, and runs into just a "spot" of trouble with King Solomon's magic ring...

So it looks like it really will take place in Solomon's time! I betcha that legend I mentioned is going to come into play...
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2 May 10 - 12:38
I was going to scoff at the offtopicness, but then I realized that the last few posts were huge.


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2 May 10 - 12:55
Hello all, it would appear that all it takes to bring me back to the forum is word of a new book...and possibly the procrastination due to exams. Anyway this is exciting stuff.

By the way, I love what you have done with the place!

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2 May 10 - 14:18
Sentynel wrote:I've split off the off-topic microbiology discussion into its own thread in General Chat. Come on, guys, this is the discussion thread for the upcoming book, can we at least try and keep this thread of all the ones in the forum on topic?
Hey, it was just a small discussion :'( . it is not often I get to meet people doing microbiology.
Anyway Stuffing, we have got a separate thread for our subject now. But seriously, there isn't much to discuss now Sent.
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If you support LD, put up Sent, GS and DC's avie. It would be fun =D.
Oh, just in case that post seems off-topic too;
Are we getting the countdown now? We know the dates.
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2 May 10 - 14:28
wrote:Are we getting the countdown now? We know the dates.
Soon(tm).
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Chiz Ghul
2 May 10 - 18:08
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2 May 10 - 22:30
Nathaniel wrote:Hello all, it would appear that all it takes to bring me back to the forum is word of a new book...and possibly the procrastination due to exams. Anyway this is exciting stuff.

By the way, I love what you have done with the place!

EDIT: Wow should probably get around to editing my avatar and sig, or perhaps I should leave them as they are for old time sake.
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stuffing Mouler
3 May 10 - 18:20
Oops, sorry for the off-topic discussion, earlier!

I just thought of something: since this book is taking place pre-ptolemy, how is that going to effect Bart's character? I mean, I always had the impression that Ptolemy softened his views toward humans and made him a bit erm...less bloodthirsty than the other spirits. Is he going to be different now? What do you think?
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3 May 10 - 20:31
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