The topic's with one golem not five.
I'm still leaning towards the Golem, it disrupts the forces that power Ramuthra's disruption.

I agree. All the magic in the world doesn't really matter if it doesn't affect you.

Unless Ramuthra can somehow warp the scroll out of the golem's mouth. Unlikely, especially with a spirit who is so powerful they don't often have to think to destroy something.

Even so, Golem couldn't really hurt Rammy, who would kill it some other non-magical way.

How do you know Ramuthra can do anything that doesn't involve magic?

Some flying crate (flight brought about by rift) or something could hit the Golem in the face and force the scroll out?

Something like that perhaps.

Apollo wrote:Some flying crate (flight brought about by rift) or something could hit the Golem in the face and force the scroll out?

Something like that perhaps.

Unfortunately physics doesn't work like that, even with Chaos Theory.

Unless it hits the golem in the back of the head. Then there's an actual slight chance.

*Consults expert Sentynel*

Well, since the likelihood of the rift knocking out the scroll is slim (I think Kitty actually had to pull it out), I'm still with the golem.

There's no way a flying box, no matter the trajectory or design, could knock the scroll out of a golem's mouth. If it was that easy golems would be useless because the scrolls would fall out under normal operating conditions..

Yep.
So no go there.
And the Golem's essensially (sp) indestructable, it's had building fall on it, without a scratch.
Giant statue of R. the II too.

Sentynel wrote:There's no way a flying box, no matter the trajectory or design, could knock the scroll out of a golem's mouth. If it was that easy golems would be useless because the scrolls would fall out under normal operating conditions..

You didn't need to actually respond... =P

*Essential

The Golem couldn't kill Rammy. And Rammy can't kill the Golem (in our reasoning thus far), and so we have a stalemate.

Sounds like a theorem for unstoppable force meets immovable object.
Besides, that makes a bad story.

Ramuthra wins.

If you read the Golem's inscription this powerful mute being is immune to beings of air and fire.

So far we know that Djinni are being made of air and fire, and afrits are demons of fire.

EDIT: just foudn that marids are being of water, so if Ramuthra is of water or air too Golem dies.

It's about 96 percent chance of golem losing...

Now it there were 5 of them....

Ok... new pont of view...
that might work, but I think air, fire, and water are over simplifications...
I like it.

Ramuthra would win hands down if you remember Bart said he distorts the elements the golems element is earth so it would still be distorted Also the golem is still magic and ramuthra alters the shape of magic remember they defeated the golem but they did not kill ramuthra also there where iorn bars in the room but it did not seem to harm it

ramurtha would win since ramurtha bends everything that makes sense