That would explain it. Still, this is the cover for AoS, right? I think "Time to Face Your Demons" would fit PG more, if it has something to do with Nat's ambition and/or guilt.

But, in my opinion, it's pure marketing. "Time to Face Your Demons" sounds appealing -even if it doesnt'm make much sense when you know what the story is about.

OK, is the new cover the american one or the british one or what. Personally i still prefer the british cover and dislike the american one. This one's somewhere in between.

I like it but it still looks too kiddie for me.

I like a book that an adult can read in public without being embrassed. Any cover would've been fine when I was 13 and discovered the books in WHSmith when the Golems eye had just been released. unfortunatly as I'm 20 next month it makes me glad I'm british 'cause i cringe at the sight of the american ones.

Actually now that i think of it. It reminds me of the spooks books cover. http://www.doodledbooks.com/the-wardsto ... y-45-c.asp

indie2 wrote:OK, is the new cover the american one or the british one or what. Personally i still prefer the british cover and dislike the american one. This one's somewhere in between.

I like it but it still looks too kiddie for me.

I like a book that an adult can read in public without being embrassed. Any cover would've been fine when I was 13 and discovered the books in WHSmith when the Golems eye had just been released. unfortunatly as I'm 20 next month it makes me glad I'm british 'cause i cringe at the sight of the american ones.

Actually now that i think of it. It reminds me of the spooks books cover. http://www.doodledbooks.com/the-wardsto ... y-45-c.asp

It's okay, Harry Potter made it acceptable to read kids' books in public. Or get an ebook reader or something.

Sentynel wrote:

indie2 wrote:OK, is the new cover the american one or the british one or what. Personally i still prefer the british cover and dislike the american one. This one's somewhere in between.

I like it but it still looks too kiddie for me.

I like a book that an adult can read in public without being embrassed. Any cover would've been fine when I was 13 and discovered the books in WHSmith when the Golems eye had just been released. unfortunatly as I'm 20 next month it makes me glad I'm british 'cause i cringe at the sight of the american ones.

Actually now that i think of it. It reminds me of the spooks books cover. http://www.doodledbooks.com/the-wardsto ... y-45-c.asp

It's okay, Harry Potter made it acceptable to read kids' books in public. Or get an ebook reader or something.

God I'd so love to be one of these people who could read books on one of those. For some reason I need a book with pages, I can't really read any other way.

Then again, I'd also love to be one of these people who could afford one of those.

How much are they now? $150? (I bought mine for $175, but it's a nook, not Kindle because I find nook to be more consumer friendly.) I remember back when I wanted one about three years ago but they were crappier quality and about $600.

Gotta love market demand. Pity there's not any colored version of e-ink yet though. :/

Oh yes, that is the best about gadgets. They keep getting better and they keep getting cheaper.
I suppose I should ask my parents for a iPod. I really want one. But I hate asking them to buy anything for me.

just gonna say, i hate e-readers because in a time where we're shrinking, electronizing (thats not even a word :) ), and modernizing everything, books should stay the same. Books are too traditional to be changed. Also, it almost seems contradictory to say get off of your electronics and read if there are e-readers. lets just say, i despise the idea of modernizing books.

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indie2 wrote:OK, is the new cover the american one or the british one or what. Personally i still prefer the british cover and dislike the american one. This one's somewhere in between.

I like it but it still looks too kiddie for me.

I like a book that an adult can read in public without being embrassed. Any cover would've been fine when I was 13 and discovered the books in WHSmith when the Golems eye had just been released. unfortunatly as I'm 20 next month it makes me glad I'm british 'cause i cringe at the sight of the american ones.

Actually now that i think of it. It reminds me of the spooks books cover. http://www.doodledbooks.com/the-wardsto ... y-45-c.asp

I personally like the american covers better than the british covers, but i can see how one might think they are too juvenile.

as for the Spooks comparison, based on the picture in the link, i would definately agree. it must be the same cover designer and/or artist.

wrote:just gonna say, i hate e-readers because in a time where we're shrinking, electronizing (thats not even a word :) ), and modernizing everything, books should stay the same. Books are too traditional to be changed. Also, it almost seems contradictory to say get off of your electronics and read if there are e-readers. lets just say, i despise the idea of modernizing books.

But e-books have loads of advantages over a paper book. You have to buy or go to the library, borrow from a friend etc, to get the traditional books. While you can just download e-books and start reading them then and there. And buying paper books will cost more than downloading an e-book. And traditional books are heavier and one can have many books saved in an e-reader and refer to them much more easily. And e-books would never go out of print. And, you can change the font size in e-readers and search for meanings and stuff. And finally, you also save on paper.

nathanielandbartimaeus wrote:

wrote:just gonna say, i hate e-readers because in a time where we're shrinking, electronizing (thats not even a word :) ), and modernizing everything, books should stay the same. Books are too traditional to be changed. Also, it almost seems contradictory to say get off of your electronics and read if there are e-readers. lets just say, i despise the idea of modernizing books.

I sort of agree, I don't tend to judge people who like to keep up with tech-y stuff cause if it gets more people to read I'm all for it. but in all honesty I have almost a whole book case full of mostly books that i like (in other words it looks like the teenage fantasy section of a library :D) and am rather proud that it looks like a bookcase and isn't just full of rubbish.

and yeah, like i've said before i have problems reading books off a lit up screen rather than on paper so I'm slightly biased anway. And i dunno how people can think of an e-book the same as something you hold and 'is' basically. seeing my barti books on my shelf with their spines looking at me so creased and worn makes me happy cause their loved and weren't just a waste of money to be thrown away...

...God I'm a sentimental b**** en' i?

No, you're not. I get what you mean completely. Like, I prefer to read newspapers than e-newspapers. And my mom says nothing is better than a hot cup of coffee in the early morning, with the windows open and the cool breeze in and a newspaper in her hand. She says sitting in front of the computer in the morning and checking out news would never be quarter as nice. But I think it is just requires getting used to a thing. Probably, if she had a small netbook or something which allowed her to pretty much do the same and if she was more accustomed to navigating an e-newspaper, I don't think she would miss the papers much.
And, e-readers do allow you to dim the light so it doesn't have to be a lit-up screen.

But but but newspapers get ink on your hands.... =p

No but I hate that a lot of newspapers are going under, because I do like reading them.

Most ebook readers use e-ink screens, which don't need to be backlit to be legible (nor do they need power to maintain an image, only to change it). So they are more comfortable to read for long periods than a regular LCD screen. (Not that I have any problems with staring at a screen for hours, heh.)

I don't see why books should be given any particular exemption from the march of technology any more than anything else should. There'll always be a market for books, in the same way there's still a market for vinyl records. It'll probably become such that the dedicated fans buy their signed, printed books, and the rest read ebooks; maybe you get a few books you really love on paper or something like that. Ebooks wouldn't sell if there weren't good reasons for people to want them rather than paper books.

And I have precisely zero sympathy for the plight of the newspapers. They're failing because they screwed up. I read the news on my computer every morning, and it's way less annoying than fighting with a newspaper, plus it's way easier to find and read the stories I'm interested in. Newspapers fill their pages with sensationalism and vacuous nonsense, and are frequently shown up by blogs for a complete lack of actual journalistic fact checking, despite so frequently going on about the respectability of old-school newspapers. Fun fact: You don't deserve it and so you lost it.

Technology allows us to do wonderful things, and it's senseless to try and preserve outdated methods solely for old times' sake. Where they have their advantages, then work to these strengths; where they don't they will die.

Nero wrote:But but but newspapers get ink on your hands.... =p

No but I hate that a lot of newspapers are going under, because I do like reading them.

Really, thats never, ever happened to me before. i thought new papers only did that when wet...well no, i've read metros on the bus that have been slightly wet and have never got ink on my hands.

You get black ink stains on your fingers if you spend long enough reading one. You occasionally get it off new books, too.

I thought Nero was joking about the ink...it has never come on my hands ever.

Most newspapers (in fact, nearly all) are available as e-newspapers too. And the same stuff is in both of them. But yeah, you get to access blogs and other things on the internet which show how some newspapers sensationalize things...but otherwise, there is little difference if you just happen to read e-newspapers.

nathanielandbartimaeus wrote:I thought Nero was joking about the ink...it has never come on my hands ever.

They're supposed to be a special paper that doesn't give off ink. But my paper does still.

:( it makes me so sad to compare books someday being on the market like vinyl records.

just a new thought which occurred to me: what will schools do? online textbooks? have every class with a laptop to type instead of write? how far will modernization go?
technically, it could never end, but books are one thing that i would like to hold on to, to have something traditional, something TANGIBLE. if everything turns digital, what will we have left? Tangible items have comfort in them, its nice to be able to smell the scent of a new book, or an old one that hasn't been opened in a while. what will we do when everything is digital, when nothing is able to be touched except for the device that holds everythihng?

that would likely drive me insane.

Martha Underwood wrote::( it makes me so sad to compare books someday being on the market like vinyl records.

just a new thought which occurred to me: what will schools do? online textbooks? have every class with a laptop to type instead of write? how far will modernization go?
technically, it could never end, but books are one thing that i would like to hold on to, to have something traditional, something TANGIBLE. if everything turns digital, what will we have left? Tangible items have comfort in them, its nice to be able to smell the scent of a new book, or an old one that hasn't been opened in a while. what will we do when everything is digital, when nothing is able to be touched except for the device that holds everythihng?

that would likely drive me insane.

Vinyl records are the only segment of recorded music that's growing, you know. More and more bands are doing vinyl releases alongside the regular ones.

Increased use of laptops/tablets, I'd have thought. Honestly, my school life would have been a lot easier if I'd been allowed to take notes on a laptop. Much more organised and legible.

The point is, if people value that sort of thing, then books will keep being made for those reasons. If people want to buy them, people will sell them. Similarly, the rise of digital is because for many applications it's better.

Sentynel wrote:Increased use of laptops/tablets, I'd have thought. Honestly, my school life would have been a lot easier if I'd been allowed to take notes on a laptop. Much more organised and legible.

That. And you know what? I hate writing. But I love typing.
I'm not one bit worried about technology replacing books. It would be a lot easier for me to access e-books than paper books ('cause my city has no good library to speak of). And it would be real cool if everyone owned a laptop/tablet. A 1000 traditional stuff and more available in one device.
But yeah, books shouldn't ever go completely. If someone just feels like living life the old way, the person should be allowed to. I sometimes wish I could go back to my childhood days when life was a lot different (not to talk about my parents' or grandparents' times) and I would like to be able to, whenever I get that mad feeling.