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Umbreo Utukku
10 Jan 09 - 03:39
But can that be done with a human child actor?
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Something symbolic in that. It's what fake freedom does for you.
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Nero Higher Spirit
10 Jan 09 - 12:55
umbreo wrote:But can that be done with a human child actor?
Simply have the boy lip sync, then fill in his voice with Bartimaeus's with a little editing. I believe that's how it's done, but don't quote me on it.
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Umbreo Utukku
10 Jan 09 - 22:10
That would be incredibly hard for both actors, you realise?
When I set out from the boy's attic window, my head was so full of competing plans and complex strategems that I didn't look where I was going and flew straight into a chimney.

Something symbolic in that. It's what fake freedom does for you.
10 Jan 09 - 22:21
Not really.
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Umbreo Utukku
10 Jan 09 - 22:24
A child actor trying to lip sync what BARTIMAEUS is saying? Or Bartimaeus' voice trying to fit in with a child actor's lip syncing? Which ever way you look at it, I don't see it not looking crappy.
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Something symbolic in that. It's what fake freedom does for you.
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
11 Jan 09 - 06:57
They do it all the time.
hell, it was in a Chevy commercial I saw during a football game today.
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Umbreo Utukku
11 Jan 09 - 09:05
Name a film in which the technique was sucessful, if you can.
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
11 Jan 09 - 09:16
Hell I can't think of one off the top of my head...
They did it with Smokey and the Bandit for the TV version in the late 70s, all I can think of.
For profanity, fyi.
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Umbreo Utukku
11 Jan 09 - 09:29
Now, am I likely going to be able to FIND the 70's TV series "Smokey and the Bandit", let alone WATCH it? Hardly supporting your point.
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
12 Jan 09 - 01:31
It's a movie, Theatrical.
Then released on TV... ABC maybe, dunno, don't care.
'Sumbitch' was changed to scumbum.
Worked out perfectly, even got on the Hot Wheel version.
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12 Jan 09 - 11:37
Works for Miley Cyrus...
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Umbreo Utukku
13 Jan 09 - 06:13
Hmm. I'm not convinced. Wouldn't work in a modern film, especially a Bart film. Yes, Apollo, we know there isn't going to be one.
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13 Jan 09 - 17:38
Yet, we very sincerely & fervently discuss about it. I just hope JS ropes in a director (with a big budget). The director needn't do anything-just listen to all our suggestions & implement it.
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13 Jan 09 - 21:29
umbreo wrote:Name a film in which the technique was sucessful, if you can.
Goldfinger.
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
13 Jan 09 - 22:45
It does?
Hm, didn't know.
It'd work Umbreo.
I could do a decent job with some simple text (i.e. no medical words please) and a good actor.
ok, you'd be able to tell, but w.e.
I gotta find that Chevy commercial...
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Umbreo Utukku
13 Jan 09 - 23:33
Hang on. By chance last night I watched a movie where I think they may have used the technique. Face Off, with Nicolas Cage and John Travolta. Anyway, for those who haven't seen it, two people switch faces and voices, but there are parts when they haven't yet traded voice, but have each others face. In these parts, when one of the actors speaks, they have the other's voice, and it works really well. It's definately not the actors themselves mimicing the voice. Watch the movie if you haven't seen it and you'll understand what I'm talking about. It's actually a good movie, too, apart from being a little farfetched.
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
14 Jan 09 - 00:39
We all know exactly what you're talking about.
Did it work well?
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Umbreo Utukku
14 Jan 09 - 07:24
Yes, I thought so. Watch the film, see for yourself.
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
14 Jan 09 - 23:23
See, told ya it can work.
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Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome.
~Isaac Asimov
There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
~Benjamin Franklin
You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea.
~Medgar Evers

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Nero Higher Spirit
17 Jan 09 - 04:03
Wooo. High fives everyone. We solved Barty's voice problem.

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