How did you first picture Nathaniel?

Ptolemy's Gate
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Apollo Marid
A young Stephen Colbert and James Bond hybrid. Yes, it is possible.
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
That sounds kind of creepy...
Really, really creepy.
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i'm going to agree with Dansariki... sounds pretty odd.. not in a good way either.
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Nero Higher Spirit
Now mwamba wants me to make a sig of that.

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Honorius Utukku
Pale, tousled black hair, and thin. A dribble of snot (Barty mentioned it, and it stuck).
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Kwassi Mouler
1st Book: I pictured him as very pale, slight but not scrawny, and (strange as this may sound) dark grey-blue eyes.
2nd Book: My first impression in this one was a LOT more "cool" than the first one.
3rd Book: Looking like a younger version of one of my teachers, short hair, tall but still sturdy, and so on. Still including everything I said before, of course. ;)


i imagined him this way, only with blue eyes ;D :j/j:
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
Wow.
Yours certainly has an epic feel to it :D
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~Benjamin Franklin
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He looks like a Japanese in that pic. But with a few modifications I think you pretty much got it.
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Jonah Ghul
Depends on which book we're talking about, but in Ptolemy's Gate, I do imagine him a bit older, and he did have cropped hair military fashion at this point in time. I mean yeah he was still a teenager, but he felt older, you know? By this point I mean.

Also, while I figured that he was effeminate, I also figured that most of Bart's more detrimental remarks were just his usual bluster. Except in Golem's Eye. Everything about Nat's fashion sense in Golem's Eye has to be true. I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.
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evillaugh Djinni
I kinda picture him long and lanky with no particulars. I usually tend to not read escriptions correctly and get a totally wrong image, like picturing bart in an arabic tunica in AoS, before i realised that Ptolemy was supposed to be egyptian...
Natty is usually hard to pin down for me, none (further) problems with Bart or Kitty or the other minor characters, but we only have Bart's word for most of it, so we don't know if it's really that accurate.
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You and me both evillaugh. My favorite is when a sequel comes out after a while to a certain book series, and I've forgotten the character's descriptions, but at the same time I don't want to reread. So I end up reading the new book until like maybe halfway through, where I have to stop and go 'hey wait a minute this girl is a brunette and also thirteen.' Incredible.

If there's any Nat description I enjoy though, it's Golem's Eye Nat.
wrote:Nathaniel had soon perceived that among working magicians, appearance was an important factor in maintaining status. Shabby attire was frowned upon; indeed it was a sure-fire mark of mediocre talent. He did not intend to give this impression. With the stipend that he received from his department, he had bought a tight-fitting black drainpipe suit and a long Italian coat, both of which he considered dangerously fashionable. He wore slim, slightly pointed shoes and a succession of garish handkerchiefs, which provided an explosion of color across his breast. With this outfit carefully in place, he would walk around the Whitehall cloisters with a lanky, purposeful stride, reminiscent of some wading bird, clutching sheaves of paper in his arms...
Nathaniel in Golems Eye is a dork. REMINISCENT OF SOME WADING BIRD. He was a dork.
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evillaugh Djinni
Haha, yes he totally is. No wonder Bartimaeus gets such a kick out of making fun of him mercilessly.
I can't recall the actual quote, but he says something about the trousers being see-through and the hankerchiefs resembling tents.
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Jonah Ghul
Found them! You mean these, right?
wrote:I regarded him bleakly in my turn. His face still had the old pale and hungry look, or at least the bit I could see did, since half of it was curtained by a veritable mane of hair. I swear he hadn't been within a mile of a pair of scissors since I'd last set eyes on him; his locks cascaded around his neck like a greasy black Niagra.
As for the rest, he was less weedy than before, true, but he hadn't so much gotten bulkier as been clumsily stretched. He looked as if some giant had grabbed his head and feet, yanked once, then gone off in disgust: his torso was narrow as a spindle, his arms and legs gangly and ill-fitting, his feet and hands quietly reminiscent of an ape's.
The gangly effect was heightened by his choice of clothes: a swanky suit, so tight it looked as if it had been painted on, a ridiculous long black coat, dagger-sharp shoes, and a flouncy handkerchief the size of a small tent hanging from his breast pocket. You could tell he thought he looked terribly dashing.
There were some cast-iron insult opportunities here, but I bided my time.
Ah yes, the see-through trousers too.
wrote:"Ah yes, of course. The fragrant Ms. Whitwell. A delightful creature." I appraised him closely, warming to my task. "Did she advise you on your fashion sense as well? What's with those comical skin-tight trousers, anyway? I can read the label on your underpants right through them. As for those cuffs-"
He bristled. "This shirt was very expensive. Milanese silk. Big cuffs are the latest fashion."
"They look like lacy toilet plungers. It's a wonder you don't get blown backward in a draft. Why don't you cut them off and make them into a second suit? It couldn't be worse than the one you're wearing. Or they'd make a pretty Alice band for your hair."
It was notable that these jibes about his clothes seemed to annoy him more than the Underwood one. His priorities had certainly shifted over the years. He struggled to master his fury, picking restlessly at his cuffs, repeatedly smoothing back his hair.
"Look at you," I said. "So many new little habits. I bet you're copying them off one of your precious magicians."
His hand shot down from his hair. "No, I'm not."
"You probably pick your nose the way Ms. Whitwell does, you're so desperate to be like her."
Bad though it was to be back, it was nice to see him writhe with fury once again. I let him hop about inside his pentacle for a moment or two. "Surely you hadn't forgotten," I said cheerily. "You summon me, the backchat comes free. It's part of the package."
Despite the obvious age inaccuracy, I sometimes imagined him as the guy from The Corpse Bride, because Bartimaeus spends so much of book 2 going on about how thin he is.
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evillaugh Djinni
Jonah: Ahahaha! Yes, exactly those parts. Nearly choked on my spit re-reading them, too. Biding his time indeed.

King of Barts:
Yes, I can see what you mean :P
Just add the proper clothes and we have ourselves a Natty-boy.
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Luciene Higher Spirit
Luciene wrote:


I think this picture was in my first signature ^
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Perenutet Foliot
Josh wrote:I pictured him as the main character from Persona 3. Until I got to the page where Bartimaeus said that Nathaniel would look like a girl if you looked at him from behind in a dark alley. That gave me the idea that Nat curled his hair.

[+] Spoiler
Anyways, what I really wanted to talk about was the ending. I didn't put the ending in the topic title cause I wouldn't want people to go,"Oh great, another 'Discuss the ending' topic." But I can't help it. The ending pissed me off. SPOILERS IN THE NEXT SET OF PARENTHESES!(Anyone seen Death Note? I've seen the ending and the episode before that one and a couple of other episodes. It made the same impact as this book. Just wanted to let you all know.) Anyways, could it be possible that at the absolute second before Nathaniel got hit, that when he said the dismissal stuff that he would've gone to the Other Place also? I mean, they were in the same body. Nat could've been sucked in too, right? Now I know what Bart said at the last second, but he could've been lying. After all, Bart did make everything dramatic. <_<
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You're probably living your life to the full or dead for all I know, (SIX blasted years) but I never expected to find another fan of both Death Note and Persona 3 here. :wow:

As for how I pictured Nathaniel...
First book:

Second/Last book:


Only that I pictured him real-life style, of course.
In the last book, I imagined him as something of a cross between the taller guy and (an unhappy version of) Logan Lerman.
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evillaugh Djinni
Hope springs eternal, Perenutet.
We can't actually see the second image.
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Si sapis, sis apis - If you're wise, be a bee
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