In my opinion, it was a great ending. Tied up a lot of loose ends, but left you wondering about others.

o sorry!

I know its just a book, but the ending left me a little emotionally distressed for a couple days. *tear*

crazykksquared wrote:I know its just a book, but the ending left me a little emotionally distressed for a couple days. *tear*

Don't worry about it, that happened to me too.

Strangely, it happened to everyone but me....

Either you're psychotic, or you just have a really strong mental state.

This is you, Nero -->

:D Yes!

Personally, I voted B. Nat didnt have to die, and if he hadnt then I probably wouldnt even be on these forums right now. Ultimately, its not necessarily Nats death that bothers me(although it does a little.) What does bother me:

A) No chance for him to come back, since there's not future Bart books.
B) Bart lives, but Kitty doesnt know. With Bartimaeus alive it means he might have future adventures. But we dont know what they are :(
C) There were unexpressed somewhat romantic feelings between Kitty and Nat
D) We see an opportunity for a revolution of the relationship between Magician and Demon. But the book ends before its further explored.
E) It's probable that Kitty would again visit the Other Place and call to Bartimaeus out of desperation or loneliness.

In my opinion, it wasnt an END to the book. I read the last page and was left thinking ,"Are you kidding me....? He dies, thats it? We never find out what else happens to Kitty or Bart or the new government? We never learn what happens in the Americas? " We learn that Nat dies, but what about all the other characters?
Some people have said, "Oh it's up to our imaginations what happens next." Well, here's the problem with that. I have a good imagination, and i can literally think of a DOZEN other ways of continuing the story with another full book or TWO. If you want some of my ideas i will gladly post them.

Final Note: Travelling with the characters throughout the story has left me feeling empty in that I don't know what happens exactly to them.

-Anthony G.

A completely closed-ended book is boring. I like ones that leave the ending open.

tony817
I agree
Though somewhat with synti...however ur name's spelled
I like a slightly open ending
i just think that ptolemy's gate was a bit too open at the end
like an eternal gorge........
sentynel, thats it :)
it took me a sec to remember your name
never heard it b4 :ermm:

Sentynel wrote:A completely closed-ended book is boring. I like ones that leave the ending open.

YEAH!

Coltsmagi wrote:never heard it b4

It's a corruption of Sentinel.

Ton817 wrote:If you want some of my ideas i will gladly post them.

Please, do that. And while you're at it, why not just take over Stroud's place?

A) There will always be more Barty books, since, he is still alive and always has his past to tell. Just not ones with Natty.

B) So Kitty doesn't know...she'll find him somehow. She's smart enough.

C) Then you wanted them together...me too, same with lots of people. But, life's a b**** :P

D) We don't need to see such a thing explored. We can imagine, like you with your "good imagination" what it's like. Suddenly imagining isn't as fun as learning what actually happens. Stroud wants us to actually explore it, not because he had writer's block and couldn't think of a better ending.

E) Yes, unfortunetly.... :(

So then...where's your novel?

Well Nero, from the way you said it I'm fairly certain you don't want to hear my general ideas. After mulling it over for a while, I realized that, while sad, Nat's death was necessary. It was mostly that we have no way of knowing exactly if there WILL be more Barty books.

And yes, I do enjoy books with somewhat-open endings. However, PG left a black hole at the end. What happens to Kitty? Does she practice summoning? Does she travel? Does Barty ever get summoned by chance? Did the new government fare better than the old one?

I had somewhat moderate expectations that these questions would be at least half-answered, but theyre not. Nat's death = sad. I didn't like it.
Not knowing anything about anyone else = devastating. I enjoyed the travelling throughout the story with the characters too much to not know what happened after Nat dies.

And as an FYI, I did NOT claim to have written a novel, want to write one, or be capable of writing a novel.

All the best,

-Anthony G.

Sorry, about the sorta insulting parts. It just felt like you thought you could replace Stroud, which I now see you don't think of yourself. Sorry.

But I would like to see your other endings... no where did I infer that i didn't want to hear it.

So what your saying, is that a epilogue would clarify things up?

If so, my opinion is that would just ruin Nat's death and would be completely unnecessary. Because we don't need to know how the government fared, the government will always be the government.
And we can infer that Kitty will not practice summoning again, as from the chapter(s) when Kitty summoned Bartimaeus, that she only learned magic as to get help from Barty for her little plan to abolish the magician Cycle.

I'm sorry to have not said this, but to the insane forums. XD

:P

Haha thanks for the Welcome. I wouldnt really want an epilogue since that would kinda distort the effects of the ending. But here was one of my thoughts.
Kitty has no friends, no family she can really trust, she's not part of the government, so what is she going to do?

In my eyes, tt's not that far-fetched to say that Kitty might travel around the world, or even to America to see if she can help the people there. Either destination gives rise to endless opportunities for new adventures. I.E. In another part of the world, Kitty faces a challenge she doesnt feel capable of beating, goes to the OP out of desperation and maybe seeking enlightenment, and discovers that Barty is still alive.

They're rough ideas, yes, but with PG we have no way of knowing the future for Barty or Kitty or anything. Another Barty book is much better than not knowing what happens to a few beloved characters.

-Anthony G.

Nero wrote:Strangely, it happened to everyone but me....

We're in the same boat.

Hmm...
Both of our parents want us to be lawyers. (Just for the money its seems)
Both of us have a fragile temper.
And both of us didn't cry at the end of the book.

That is weird....

We (or at least I) don't have fragile tempers.

Oh really? How many times have you called people "idiot" when arguing with them because they disagree with you (and often prove you wrong shortly afterwards...)?

Never! Because I am always right.

I wasn't talking to you.

Pshh. On another note, anyone here think that JS is guna write more Barty books from another persons perspective?