Just wondering what everyone thinks about these two issues.

I am for Evolution, I dont believe in God/s at all.






P.S Keep this civilised, nothing that breaks the rules.

Dynamite thread here, Gladstone...

Evolution is undisputably right.

What makes you so sure...

- Just take it

i believe in the Evo theory makes more sense and there are more facts

I'm a cynical believer who thinks that the two really could go together and the controversy is a bunch of nonsense.

I hate religious threads because they get me thinking on topics that are annoying to deal with. Bah. I believe in a higher being, and that all religions are one, but the more you think about it...religion could've been put in place just to make criminals think if they do something bad they'll suffer for it and death is no escape. It's worked too.

Kinda sad to think nothing's happening after life, but fact is kinda indisputable that there is a good chance that the recycling of the universe and such from the beginning of time has formed at least one planet that is in the right place to support life. We can at least hope there has been a higher being that has evolved since the beginning of time to an ascended state that it makes an afterlife, but there's a good chance we get eternal suffering by that evolved being as it amuses itself with us.

Bleak aspect. Why do you want to debate religion anyway? There is too much faith in the world, and if it's kept in check you can help prevent a lot of things from people who have nothing to lose except their life.

Neatly put, Krim.


And Gladstone, I was hoping somebody would dispute it with 'evidence' so I could do some decent debating...

Hmm... totally out of the blue, where exactly do you live, Gladstone?

The thing about god is you can not disprove it or prove it.
It's impossible to agrue that god created man, the universe or practically everthing else.
Nor is it tell it doesn't exist. Science can't expain everything. Nor do we want to beleive what it does. Does it actually occur to star struck lover that that heady feeling is actually a rogue molecule inside the head. Or a yoga rishi that his nirvana is actually organsm made ny the mind?

And if you want my (Somewhat pessimistic) opinion: God is big fat lie. Jesus chirst had very good sex with mary magdalane. Prophet Muhammad invented Islam to get those damm tribals to stop fighting. Yada yada.

PS Definatly evolution

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wrote:Jesus chirst had very good sex with mary magdalane.

If you can find me one scholar that supports that I'll be in shock. Dan Brown doesn't count - that's a main criticism of the Da Vinci Code and Holy Blood, Holy Grail.

Just saying - even the non-canonical and Gnostic papers that could support that generally are non-supportive of sexuality and never really imply it.

The Gnostic and black writing imply it. Really.

PS Most of the surviving anuscripts are fragments... Constantine did a really good job.

I disagree. Any character played by Keanu Reeves sucks.

Huzzah! Opinionated Christian come to save the day!

Or make a fool of herself.

Evolution exists. So does God.

I'm sure you've heard this all before; but according to the Christian Bible the world was made in seven days. Well, a day to God could be a million years to us. Nobody knows everything except what's been theorized and what's been written down in the Bible and the Bible has been translated millions of times and accidentally and intentionally aletered (I'm reading a book about that). The Christians don't know the whole story and the Athiest Darwinists only have what science tells them.


The thing about science:

Science is based on being able to repeat and prove things. Gravity has been proved again and again and again. The experiment has behaved accordingly, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Say a scientist would go out in the middle of nowhere and see an angel. He's say "Wow, an angel!" But when he would tell his colleagues about it they'd say "We don't believe you, prove it."
And he'd go to the place and do all sorts of experiments to prove why he saw the angel and he wouldn't find anything. So the idea would be dismissed as a lie, or even a figment of his imagination. Because it didn't repeat itself, it wasn't true.

In Christianity things that aren't repeating themselves are still true. It's different from science, but just because you can't prove it didn't mean it didn't happen.

I hope I'm making sense. XD

i can see this forming a huge debate!

i don't really know much about the bible but didn't God make day and night a few days after the formation of the earth? So what was before it, there had to be night or day before.

I think most of Genesis is symbolism.

Also, atheist and agnostic doctors have done a study with out-of-body experiences (weird, I know). You know, when people die but are then revived. Their results were odd - most reported something like heaven or gates or something like that. And the study was done by cynical scientists, if I remember correctly, who didn't expect it.

@ Nathaniel: I agree with Bowles. Genesis is symbolic. :3 (My two cents worth)

@ Bowles: How do you revive someone? D:

Well, you know when someone has a heart attack, or for some other reason, their heart stops.

They are clinically dead.

Then someone gives them CPR, or gives them a quick electric shock, and their heart restarts, they are alive!

:)

Genesis, and the bible, IMO was written by humans. Not to mention its been copied thousands of times, so there are bound to be errors.

Out-of-body experiences:
Some people saw gates, some a tunnel and a white light, some just whiteness or blackness. It's subconcious - what you expect to see.


A day to God is millions of years. Yeah, most believable explanation.

'Everything in science has to be repeated to be true' - there's only one of me. :P But seriously, the Big Bang only happened once.

So, how about the big crunch?

PS How come your so knowledgable on the philosophy stuff, anyways? (Red: The outer place)

Its impossible to know anything about the big crunch, its even mroe than a theory than the Big Bang. But it would seem nice if everything repeats itself.

As for Sentynel, hes generally a clever person :P


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