Again, doubt that.
History would have said Hitler "persuaded" the Jews to leave, had ol' Adolf won.
Gladstone strong-armed 'em.

Dansariki wrote:Again, doubt that.
History would have said Hitler "persuaded" the Jews to leave, had ol' Adolf won.
Gladstone strong-armed 'em.

Nah. NO history would be more accurate.

I completely failed to get anything out of that.
lol.
I didn't get it.

Nero wrote:

Dansariki wrote:

TheSilverNoble wrote:I think I assumed it was something more defensive. The Charm idea does make sense, but with the staff he could intimidate or kill anyone who disagreed with him. If it had some sort of strong Shield, or functioned like and amulet, he would also be protected.

I agree with this. It's Gladstone's version of a bulletproof vest for the era.

Though it would look weird if it also protects the front too.

Some djinni shoots a Detonation, and the cloak just bounces it back....

It might have been a talisman, or it might have been merely a cloak-a greatly ceremonial one, but no less a cloak. Makepeace was very "ambitous" ie so full of himself he killed the government and absorbed a high spirit (ove rmarid level). He would have attached great symoblism to being dressed like Gladstone while wielding his power.

I've thought of that, but Gladstone imbued power in nearly everything around him.
You'll notice, if you re-examine it, that the two items Makepeace said were 'worthless' to Kitty were the Staff and the Cloak.
The former leveled walls, the latter's gotta be something.

Dansariki wrote:I've thought of that, but Gladstone imbued power in nearly everything around him.
You'll notice, if you re-examine it, that the two items Makepeace said were 'worthless' to Kitty were the Staff and the Cloak.
The former leveled walls, the latter's gotta be something.

Makepeace probably wanted the cloak for bragging rights, he's *such* a showman =p

FuzzyLobster wrote:I don't really have any basis for this, but maybe he also asked for the cloak because he wanted to draw attention from him wanting the staff. If he was to only ask for one item, it would seem more suspicious than if he asked for two.

Just my opinion.

This seems reasonable. Gladstone would not need a charm, who would argue with someone with a staff that can blow down walls? No wonder he was made Prime Minister!

I'm sure a pair of nasty-tempered afrits sped up the process considerably.

ACK! My screen! *falls over*

Annnd now it's better. *shrug*

Um. That was relevant how?
Gah relevant only has one a.

My theory is that it actually DOESN'T have any power, but he grouped the item of no power with the Staff to make it seem like the staff had even less power.

Has anyone bothered to ask Stroud about the cloak yet?

haha righttttt

SevenPentacles wrote:Has anyone bothered to ask Stroud about the cloak yet?

I think not. I ran a search in that answered questions section and nothing came up. But I don't think that the search is all too reliable.
It is that or going through seven pages of questions.

nathanielandbartimaeus wrote:

SevenPentacles wrote:Has anyone bothered to ask Stroud about the cloak yet?

I think not. I ran a search in that answered questions section and nothing came up. But I don't think that the search is all too reliable.
It is that or going through seven pages of questions.

Just fixed* a search related bug that meant if you were trying to search it specific forums, it wasn't working.

*Using a JavaScript workaround

It still shows nothing for "cloak".
Thanks for fixing it.

Martha Underwood wrote:My theory is that it actually DOESN'T have any power, but he grouped the item of no power with the Staff to make it seem like the staff had even less power.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. He made a much bigger deal out of the cloak than the Staff, mentioning the Staff only as an undertone, and since they knew the cloak was powerless they would assume the Staff was too. Though how nobody picked up on it AT ALL, I simply do not understand. I suppose the massive magic aura of everything together must have made it tricky for them...

And I bet he picked the cloak as his chosen downplay item rather than anything else because he probably wanted to wear it, on stage, or while he was doing something big and megalomaniac-ish.

N.B. It wasn't just Makepeace trying to make Kitty not realise the significance of the Staff, it was Stroud doing the same to us. We're suckers, aren't we?

I think he was downgrading the staff to, but stanly says 'it ALL has power even the cloak!' so it does something, but he says 'even' so maybe its one of the cheaper things. We can explain away him not mentioning the staffs radiance as being an idiot. I can add it to my list of questions if he ever gets to them if you guys are really curious

You know actually, I think I might've worked out why Stanley didn't notice that the Staff was more powerful. What kind of levels of power was he used to detecting? Mouler glasses, stuff like that. Most of the things the Resistance had in their little storeroom were very low level. So when Stanley runs into something as powerful as Gladstone's little hoard, the aura must have been massive! No wonder he could barely distinguish one power source from the next.

Lilith wrote:You know actually, I think I might've worked out why Stanley didn't notice that the Staff was more powerful. What kind of levels of power was he used to detecting? Mouler glasses, stuff like that. Most of the things the Resistance had in their little storeroom were very low level. So when Stanley runs into something as powerful as Gladstone's little hoard, the aura must have been massive! No wonder he could barely distinguish one power source from the next.

Quite possibly he missed it for, to quote Good Omens, "the same reason people stood in Trafalgar Square can't see England".