Lord of the Rings has Christian undertones. Potter does not.

Lord of the Rings is a good triumphs over evil story. Potter is not.


Madatory prayers is like the School motto, Part of the identity. If you don't agree with it, you really should either stuff it in or leave.
Heh, My class teacher and I spend the morning prayer staring at each other.

Oh honestly, the pentacle isn't by definition a satanic symbol, and satanism isn't devil worship anyway.

Sentynel wrote: Oh honestly, the pentacle isn't by definition a satanic symbol, and satanism isn't devil worship anyway.

What is satanism then ;)

Satanic people worship Satan. Like...the symetric opposite of Catholisism.
This has probably benn said alot, I haven't looked, but C.S. Lewis's work in the childeren's section promotes Christianity.

Apollo wrote: Satanic people worship Satan. Like...the symetric opposite of Catholisism.

Did you read what I just said two posts ago?


Satanism is basically the advancement of the self in preference to others.

I think I saw a History Channel thingy on it. But I'll take your word for it.

Apollo wrote: Satanic people worship Satan. Like...the symetric opposite of Catholisism.

Satanism actually has nothing to do with Satan.

The Christian devil is a symbol, nothing more.

There were ancient tribes who claimed to kill/live/sacrifice in the name of Lucifer, but they've been dead quite a long time.

wrote:Lord of the Rings has Christian undertones. Potter does not.

Lord of the Rings is a good triumphs over evil story. Potter is not.


Madatory prayers is like the School motto, Part of the identity. If you don't agree with it, you really should either stuff it in or leave.
Heh, My class teacher and I spend the morning prayer staring at each other.

Well, JK Rowling said something about believing in God and it being part of the story to a degree, but the reporter didn't excatly quote her down to the letter.

How is Potter not?

We don't have school in America, or at least in public schools. And if it's something I and other people believe is wrong, why not stand up for our beliefs? Why not compromise to a moment of silence?

God? I did not find any refrence to god in Potter.

Last I heard Dumbly was dead and Potter was to go too. There's also the little soul thingies, what were they?, Church flock don't like the soul being abused like that.


Because that is what the institution stands for. You can not be a part of a country if you disagree with it's constitution. Same principle here.

Artemis wrote:

Apollo wrote: Satanic people worship Satan. Like...the symetric opposite of Catholisism.

Satanism actually has nothing to do with Satan.

The Christian devil is a symbol, nothing more.

There were ancient tribes who claimed to kill/live/sacrifice in the name of Lucifer, but they've been dead quite a long time.

At least there are some people who know what it really is...

If anything it's the opposite of Wicca more than it is the opposite of Catholicism.

Post wrote: God? I did not find any refrence to god in Potter.

The exclamation 'My God!' has surfaced quite a few times. I remember Draco used it. They also celebrate Christmas, does that count?

Ok. Superficial refrences to god.

wrote: God? I did not find any refrence to god in Potter.

Last I heard Dumbly was dead and Potter was to go too. There's also the little soul thingies, what were they?, Church flock don't like the soul being abused like that.


Because that is what the institution stands for. You can not be a part of a country if you disagree with it's constitution. Same principle here.

Point taken. But that interview is still there.

That's not true, just some people within the church. And it's in the middle of the story, obviously, so of course it looks grim.

The institution doesn't stand for that. Now, if it were a private Catholic school I could see where you are coming from. Yes, you can. It's a little thing called citizenship. I'm apart of my church, which is Baptists, because I was bapitized there when I was very young, but I disagree with them entirely. And I want to withdraw my membership, but my parents won't let me. But I'm still apart of it. I'm just not unified.

Eh, the point was that Potter did not have the level of acceptance that LotRs has for good reason.


*shurg* Your parents would have the say in the matter. All teenagers have a problem with god, me too. My father has yet to think up a god arguement against all anti god stuff that Wikipedia gave me, So all's well here. Like they say: Your's agnostic in school, atheist in college and believing in Middle age.

I just like debating.

I don't have a problem with God, but a problem with the leaders of the church.

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Did anyone notice any political remarks in Artemis Fowl? I didn't see any, but my father said there were some.

Well, I did notice that Colfer endorces evolution, at least for the story, if you count that.

I got more political themes in the Supernaturalist...they said something along the lines of religion getting in the way of unity or something like that.

I didn't notice that particular message from the Supernaturalist. Colfer just seems to be very pro-environment.

It was stated in one sentence.

I noticed it through the reread.