Okay this is a more serious note. While the other book I posted is more fun and fantasy loving this one is defidently more serious and dark. Actually before I go into depth about what this book is about people reading this should know that the book is fairly graphic and disturbing as it talks about the Holocost. I know a lot of people aren't into that kind of book, I know myself that I tend to focus on books more like well, the Bartimaeus Trilogy. But I ended up reading Night when a close friend recommened it to me and I think it is defidently a book worth dicussing.

It talks about Elie Weisel's journey through the hollocost in the concentration camp Auschwitz. It explains about the horror of living there and how his faith slowly left him. I think that anyone who has ever read this book would agree that Weislels telling is abrupt but extremely eye opening, like another, darker side to the story of Anne Frank. Please people post what you think!

I've read it, of course. It's awful what they did to him.

And there are still assholes who think it's funny to carve swastikas (is that spelled right?) into the walls of our schools. I should make them read this, to show them what that sign really represents.

I'm half-jewish, so I know a lot about this stuff.

On an interesting note, did you know that the swastika was originally a buddhist symbol (I think it represented "peace" or something of the sort.) but hitler rotated it to make it what it is now.

Not really suprised, that says Hitler all over it.

- who at M******* does that?

How am I supposed to know who? I just see them carved into the walls. I reported it, but since they can't get them out. (Lazy.) They've hung posters over them.

why not just plaster over them?

What posters?

M*******
Internal
Leadership
Kouncil


Posters. Lame, I know, but our mascot is bovine.

This is a fantastic book.

You've read it Apo? Wow, I thought no one else on here had.

Did you read the "author's note" bit where he talks about how he wouldn't answer his father?

It's one of the best one's I've ever read. Have you read anymore of his books? He's a brilliant author - but it's very hard to find them, at least in our library.

It's an awful book.

I mean, it's well written a heartfelt and everything you guys have already stated. But it makes me want to throw up.

In a good way.

(Actually the swastikah was a sign of good fortune for thousands of years before it became the symbol for Germany.)

Not for ALL of Germany. Just for the Nazis, who forced in on Germany.

The bit where the babies were being burned was heart-wrenching. I literally, hate the Nazis. I literally hope that they died in pain.

Yes, true, actually quite a bit of people probably have read this book. We had to write a report on this. Not all Nazis were bad, since Nazis were a political party there were select few who were good.

Artemis if you want them to die painfully that just makes you as bad as them - not that I'm justifing what they did.

I haven't read this book because it seemed like just another Holocaust memoir. Having seen Schindler's List, Life is Beautiful, Band of brothers and read Anne Frank and Meeting Anne Frank I think i've learnt enough about that period of history.

Meeting Anne Frank was especially interesting, it's told from the perspective of a thirteen year old from our time who lands herself in the 40s after some kind of time warp (or concussion, cant remember what) and finds herself and her alternate Jewish family shipped to a concentration camp. She meets Anne there and they chat. When she dies in the end, she pops back into the present.

Trust me Wintertabby this is not like all the other Holocost books. Think of it as a darker, more truthful version of Anne Frank. Like the otherside of the story. While you can feel horrible about what Anne Frank had to live through for two years it's nothing compaire to the other half of the story.

This man was in the concentration camps and lived through it.

And Athy, it's not exacly the same. I wouldn't kill them, I just think that they deserved it. And any "good" Nazi's had a lot of trouble hiding, often they were made examples of.

"Many who live deserve death. Some who die deserve life, but can you give it to them? Then do not be so quick to hand out death as a punishment."

Good quote. Where was that from?

Anyway, I was just expressing how horrified I was when I read that. (I knew they did it before I read it, but hearing the first-hand account is much more powerful.)

That was one of the things in my mind. Don't worry I'm not that sadistic.

Anyway, I had to scribble another swastika out. This time it was inked in pen on the heater in math class.

EDIT: Here's what I meant about those Nazi's. I hope they got what they deserved.

That's a Tolkien quote. Gandalf says it in Fellowship of the Ring, when they see Gollum in the mines.

Okay Artemis I know what you mean. When I read that book I was so mad at what they had done I hoped they got exactly what they deserved too.

I think the thing that hit me the most in the whole book was when he was talking to the man who had lived through it - Moishe - and he mentioned that they tossed the babies up in the air and used them for machine gun target practice.