On his journal he was like: Some of his views ARE completely ridiculous (poor Susan being denied Heaven because she’s into make-up),

*gasp*

Isn't the message supposed to be that by trying to be grownup, Susan lost her childlike faith in Narnia/Heaven, not that if you wear lipstick, you'll be damned?

Anyway, she didn't die on the train, she had time to change.



(I forgive you this time Stroud, but nvr talk cabbage about Lewis again =P )

Er...damn. <_<

I agree with Luc, actually.

And Susan didn't get denied heaven, in my opinion, because she was into lipstick....well Luc said it.

Heh, Narnia. I've always found deconstructions better than the real thing. Monty Python (Long live Monty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsHk9WC7fnQ), His Dark Materials, Warhammer, Lord of the Flies...

Don't mention His Dark Materials.

The first book was perhaps the most gripping piece of new literature I had read in years....then blegh.

The second one wasn't that bad...just the third had no sensational writing, it was so robotic.

Really? Haven't read past one.

And woo, 2 AM. Insomia is my friend.

It's 2am for you? It's only about 8pm here. You're what, 6 hours ahead?

Indian Standard time: +5:30 GMT.


Animated violence is so fun when it's past midnight.

Fine, I'll give that about two.

But it didn't have that magical effect of number one.

Your video doesn't work for me.

Oh noes! The Lucy/Stroud shipping will stop. The forums is going to die. Everyone into the Bartimobile!

Post's Video has abracket on the end, remove that and you'll get Graham Chapman's funeral service.

I read all the Narnia books so long ago I can't remember them. I haven't read any of them more than once, as I don't really enjoy C.S. Lewis.

What Stroud's referring to (rather euphemistically) is the thought that Susan was denied entry into Heaven because she found her sexuality, and as a woman, that was sinful. That's a pretty common interpretation of that part of the book, although I don't think that's what Lewis was going for. I really don't think he's insinuating that lipstick is sinful.

Post wrote: Heh, Narnia. I've always found deconstructions better than the real thing. Monty Python (Long live Monty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsHk9WC7fnQ), His Dark Materials, Warhammer, Lord of the Flies...

I was supposed to go to a Monty Python party today (yay March break!) but I spent 3 hours in a walk-in clinic waiting for some doctor to look at my freaking infected toes (yes, too much info, sorry) and so now I'm on meds and my mum said I was too run down to go. Great fun.

Yes, it is a common interpretation, bit like you said it's not, at least in my mind, what Lewis was trying to point out. I read it as materialism the first time, when I was nine.

Actually, Lewis was pretty Orthodox. That might be what he thought.

Bowles lives.

Bowles wrote: What Stroud's referring to (rather euphemistically) is the thought that Susan was denied entry into Heaven because she found her sexuality, and as a woman, that was sinful. That's a pretty common interpretation of that part of the book, although I don't think that's what Lewis was going for. I really don't think he's insinuating that lipstick is sinful.

I don't remember when exactly, but I know Lewis said that he believed Susan could enter heaven one day. And I don't think he disapproved of Sexuality, i read h is biography, he was in love with this woman named Joy.

I think it was "child like faith in God" that she lacked, because Peter said somewhere, I think Last Battle, that she didn't believe in Narnia anymore and called it a silly game that they played when they were children.

And he places a lot of emphasis on faith and belief, 'cos like remember those dwarves who were in the barn but didn't believe they were in the true Narnia?

Luciene wrote: I think it was "child like faith in God" that she lacked, because Peter said somewhere, I think Last Battle, that she didn't believe in Narnia anymore and called it a silly game that they played when they were children.

And he places a lot of emphasis on faith and belief, 'cos like remember those dwarves who were in the barn but didn't believe they were in the true Narnia?

Well said. What he was going for was the fact that she had lost faith not because she found her sexuality, which is pretty much repeating what Lucy said.

So, basically, Post is wrong....as usual. Just kidding Post.

Maybe.

I don't think the whole sexuality thing was what Lewis meant, I just think that's what Stroud was referring to.

And it's hard for me to think that Lewis was too over-the-top orthodox. If I remember correctly he started out atheist (maybe even with some pagan influences?), I think until he met Tolkien.