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Ptomely Mouler
What do you think of Kitty?
Kitty's...cool. Not my favorite, since Bartimaeus has forever reign in that spot, but she definitely comes in a close second. Especially with those scenes she has with Bartimaeus...those two chapters was my super-duper favorite part of Golem's Eye...and somebody tells me there's MORE in Ptolemy's Gate! SQUEE!

Just fifteen or sixteen days to go...
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Ptomely Mouler
I'm reading DE now, it's good so far, I'm not even on page 100! AS was good though, great beginning,

Yah, I think Kitty has every right to hate magicians after what I've read. I wonder what will happen when she meets up with Nathaniel
I wasn't entirely sure how I felt about Kitty until her interesting conversation with Bartimaeus in Golem's Eye. That Bartimaeus felt she was worthy enough to have an informative chat with was enough to make me respect her. And when she saved a certain someone from the golem, I became a definite Kitty fan. :)

'...it was like looking at a clear night sky--all black and cold and infinite, with tiny lights glinting, unreachable and far away.... It was terrible, yet beautiful; she was drawn to it as a child to a window.'
yeah, Kitty is definately my second favourite, right after bart and before nathaniel
the convo she had with bart was really interesting, it made me think.
by the time you've finished reading this you will realise you have just wasted 5 seconds of your life
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Mwamba Higher Spirit
She was finally a character who was truly noble, and she also put Nat in his place.

Spoiler: (though I think this warning is totally useless as the the book has been out for roughly two months in America and roughly four months in England)

No wonder in Ptolemy's Gate, when he saw her he went all :wub:.
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Post Higher Spirit
Not really polished... Nathaniel and Bartimaeus were deep; Kitty seemed t o be run of the mill two dimensional...
Shame of the Super Son
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Ptomely Mouler
Kitty seems like a good person. In the beginning I thought she was bad and Nate was good. Boy was I wrong.

I still love Bary :barti:
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Nathaniel Djinni
yeah same
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Athena Horla
No I always thought of it as Kitty being the good one.
There is a sort of busy worm,
That will the fairest book deform,
Their tasteless tooth will tear and taint
The poet, patiot,sage or saint,
Nor sparing wit nor learning.
Now, if you'd know the reason why,
The best of reasons I'll supply;
'Tis bread to this poor vermin.

J. Doraston
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Faquarl Ghul
I didnt particulary enjoy Kitty's chapters in the GE, but they really got better in PG. The summoning of Bart by her was entertaining...haha
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Ianna Marid
No one's good.

They're all ambigous. It depends on what point in life we look at Kitty and Nat.

Kitty:
Betrayed her government
Stole
Robbed Graves
Possible assitance in killing
Lied

Nat:
Betrayed Kitty
Broke promises
Went behind both his masters' backs
Lied
Sought revenge

But.....

Kitty:
Saved Nat's life on several occasions
Worked to help commoners achieve liberties
Saved Jakob (Or tried)
Defended London against demons
Brought djinni/humans together

Nat:
Brough Lovelace to justice
Saved hundreds of lives
Saved Kitty from Makepeace
Kept his promise to Kavka
Went back for Ms. Underwood
Defended London against demons
Sacerficed his life


See? People aren't good nor are they bad. It's their choices who make them who they are. In the end, both Nat and Kitty can be thought of as honorable.

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."


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Faquarl Ghul
Very good point ^^ they both can be thought of as honourble, but the way the story has been written makes Nat come across as a more arrogant character.
Yeah he's definately a more arrogant character, but that's probably only because he was brought up that way. If Kitty was brought up being told she was better than commoners, then im sure she'd be that way too.
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Faquarl Ghul
Possibly yes.

I suppose its like todays society. The rich kids behave alot differently to the working class kids and the poor kids.
I liked Kitty's character a lot in the second book. In the third she was gr8 in the start & all, but after she went to OP she kind of became.........helpless. I hope u understand what I mean. She got fooled by Nat & Bart & kind of did'nt have a very big role in the end. I expected her to play a pivotal role in the end. But still she was gr8 & could'nt do much in her condition. She was a bit too trusting unlike Nat & so maybe believed his tales.
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Apollo Marid
Actually, I agree entirely.
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Ianna Marid
I agree, for the most part.

But I didn't have a problem with her playing a smaller ending role, as she had done what she could do.

"You belong in Gryffindor,
where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve and chivalry
set Gryffindors apart."


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Apollo Marid
The one time she obeys a command, someone, a main character, dies.

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