Thanks a lot for answering, though sadly, no one seems to agree with me..........

I think u'll r right when u'll say that not all good ppl need live a life of happiness later on. True, Harry, Ron , Hermione etcetc. seem to be living a very peaceful life, but v don't know for sure. Well, they might have loads of problems later on (cause many are still quite young to have health problems etc.). Now, yes I admit their life is on the rosier side.

I did'nt mind Harry resurrecting at all, it seemed a unique plot to me (excluding The Bible, of course). Infact, I quite liked the idea. But that is strictly based on one's perception. By the way Mwamba, y do u like Bellatrix so much?

Ginny is from a family of good quidditch players & has been breaking into her brother's broomshed from the age of 6, to have a try on their brooms. Also, her seeking ability was said to be passable, not Chasing. She was one of the top goal scorer's for the Gryffindor team. Nothing anyone can't achieve with a lots of practice (add the genes in Ginny's case).

Harry & Ron are not politicians, they are Aurors. True, they work for the government but that does'nt make them politicians. No one could have called Mad-Eye & Tonks politicians.

And about them all getting top notch jobs, well they deserve it. Fred & George made loads of money cause half the ppl in the Ministry could not produce a simple Shielding Charm. Harry & co were also in the DA & that helped them a lot. And no where is it mentioned that the Ministry was revolutionised in a day.

OK, many did'nt deserve to die but died. So, it's not that all the good ppl survived , right? Personally, I found Lupin a better guy than Harry. Still (for me & me alone) Harry's death would have been almost as bad as Bartimaeus's (come on, shout at me, scream & rage). Coz I have known Harry for more than 7 yrs & find him to be a very nice person (I know I sound foolish).

What a long mail! I'm sorry I need to go now, but promise to answer all ur posts(if they are dictated to me, that is).

nathanielandbartimaeus wrote: What a long mail! I'm sorry I need to go now, but promise to answer all ur posts(if they are dictated to me, that is).

Hmm...odd. That sounds like you own this forum... ;)

Nero wrote:

nathanielandbartimaeus wrote: What a long mail! I'm sorry I need to go now, but promise to answer all ur posts(if they are dictated to me, that is).

Hmm...odd. That sounds like you own this forum... ;)

Does it really sound like that? I'm awfully sorry then coz that was never my intention. R u talking abt the 'dictated' part? That was just added after I promised to answer all mails. Obviously that is'nt possible so I added the other sentence as an afterthought.

Dude. The ;) means a joke. Well it infers that.
But back on topic...
I still say the ending was a bit of a disappointment. I was hoping for something more from such a great author.

Nero wrote: Dude. The ;) means a joke. Well it infers that.

Did'nt know that .

Do u know 'The Order Of The Pheonix' was telecasted on the 10th here in India? I mean, the DVD's have just been introduced & it was a big surprise to see the whole movie telecasted properly .

wrote:I think u'll r right when u'll say that not all good ppl need live a life of happiness later on. True, Harry, Ron , Hermione etcetc. seem to be living a very peaceful life, but v don't know for sure. Well, they might have loads of problems later on (cause many are still quite young to have health problems etc.). Now, yes I admit their life is on the rosier side.

*Everybody's* life problems doesn't follow closely with the arrival of a dark lord. Then again her main focus is anybody who's directly close to the golden trio....

wrote:I did'nt mind Harry resurrecting at all, it seemed a unique plot to me (excluding The Bible, of course). Infact, I quite liked the idea. But that is strictly based on one's perception.

*Shrug* If JK knew he was going to live, give everybody sacrificial insurance, not even have to kill Voldy directly but just with a disarming spell, and go off to have a billion babies, why JK said she 'cried' while she was writing Harry's way to his death is still beyond me.

Although, I am evading your question, aren't I? But can you explain how

wrote:"Voldemort cannot kill Harry because he used Harry's blood in his resurrection."

isn't the biggest stupid cop out you've ever read? Voldy could touch him, and was about to do so in book 4. There was no doubt he could have (were it not for that wand brother thingy.) Or am I just not getting something?

wrote:By the way Mwamba, y do u like Bellatrix so much?

For the same reasons that makes Ginny allegedly wonderful. She's intelligent, beautiful, loyal, independent, fierce, and just is plain cool. The woman's got style. Nobody would dare mess with her. Only, what makes her different is that she's canonly acknowledged she's a psychopath. She's not one person meant to portray another. When I read her, I don't hear the author shouting behind her "LOVE ME!" I AM WOMAN! I AM WONDERFUL!" Her attributes come to her naturally instead of overnight randomly.

wrote:Ginny is from a family of good quidditch players & has been breaking into her brother's broomshed from the age of 6, to have a try on their brooms. Also, her seeking ability was said to be passable, not Chasing. She was one of the top goal scorer's for the Gryffindor team. Nothing anyone can't achieve with a lots of practice (add the genes in Ginny's case).

*hands in ears* MARYSUEMARYSUEMARYSUELALALALALALA

Bleh, it just sounded out of nowhere and random to me. Oliver Wood, yes. Katie Bell, yes. Ginny's is the love of Harry's love, she's supposed to be so important, where was the hint she was going to do this? It was out of nowhere, just like her random instant popularity and larger-than-life personality.

wrote:Harry & Ron are not politicians, they are Aurors. True, they work for the government but that does'nt make them politicians. No one could have called Mad-Eye & Tonks politicians.

JK did say in a webchat they 'revolutionized' the ministry. Surely they must have a bit more influence in the other departments to accomplish that? O.o

wrote:And about them all getting top notch jobs, well they deserve it. Fred & George made loads of money cause half the ppl in the Ministry could not produce a simple Shielding Charm. Harry & co were also in the DA & that helped them a lot. And no where is it mentioned that the Ministry was revolutionised in a day.

Overnight is a bit of my own exaggeration, but 19 years doesn't seem all that realistic either.

wrote:well they deserve it

wrote:I think u'll r right when u'll say that not all good ppl need live a life of happiness later on.

Right.

wrote:OK, many did'nt deserve to die but died. So, it's not that all the good ppl survived , right? Personally, I found Lupin a better guy than Harry. Still (for me & me alone) Harry's death would have been almost as bad as Bartimaeus's (come on, shout at me, scream & rage). Coz I have known Harry for more than 7 yrs & find him to be a very nice person (I know I sound foolish).

Like Bella.

If Harry was going to die, he should have stayed died. I felt so screwed over, being led on, climatic, exiting, dramatic build up, then a weak ass explanation later on why it didn't happen.

Um, in 4, Voldy did touch Harry's cheek.

Yes, Voldy could touch Harry in book 4 cause he shared Harry's blood which enabled him to acquire Lily's protection. But when he directed the killing curse at him, the horcrux in Harry's body (which was devoid of Lily's protection) died, but Harry survived, as the protection was intended for him & this protection was alive in Voldy's veins. However, Voldy died later cause though Lily's protection exisited in his body, it did not work for him, as it was not meant for him. Clear?

Jo crying near the end of the book was nothing aberrant. It would have been odd had she not cried. An author needs to place herself/himself in a character's position to clearly depict his/her feelings. Jo possesses this quality in abundance & it is this quality which makes her such a good writer.She would not have been able to write the chapter well had she not possessed the ability to drop her pre -conceived notion of saving Harry.
If u did not manage to understand, whatever I was trying to explain in the earlier paragraph, I don't blame u. As my English teacher constantly reminds me, I am no good at exponding stuff.

The main reason I dislike Bella so much is because, she killed Sirius, Tonks & Dobby (not sure about Fred). If she did kill Fred (I think Rookwood did it, but I am not certain), then I just detest her!

Ginny might have been good from the very start. She's not in Harry's class, so initially, we v don't get to know whether she was good or not. The first Quidditch try-outs that took place in the Gryffindor team since she joined Hogwarts was in her 4th year i.e Harry's 5th year. She was selected then.
I don't think she is a Mary- Sue. Truthfully, I think quite the opposite. She was stupid in her first year, trusting her innermost secrets & fears with a writing dairy, inspite of being from a wizarding family. Also, she made herself a complete fool whenever Harry was in the vicinity. In the later years, she became more confident, though yet, I did'nt find her very smart, brave or talented. She could imitate ppl quite well, play Quidditch well too & cast a few good spell's, but so what? I have seen much more talented ppl in my lifetime. She's so famous solely cause she is pretty.

Harry & co. mainly managed to revolutionize the department by destroying Voldermort. The second part must have been simple. The members of The Order Of The Pheonix would have all been placed in good posts esp. with Kingsley's backing. And their job was just to implement laws which were bound to be good for wizardkind. And 19 years is a lot of time for doing that.

Again, I am hard pressed for time. So, bye for now.

Mwamba wrote:Even Ginny was useful, she produced Albus. (And right after the epilogue I firmly believe she is destined to be hit by a muggle who was drinking and driving in the parking lot. At the station. :D)

LMFAO. oh god, i wish. i wholeheartedly agree with the Sue bit. i wouldn't hate her as much if i didn't feel i was being bashed over the head with the "GINNY IS WONDERFUL AND SPECIAL" crap. if Rowling had shown us why she was so great but flawed at the same time, i might have liked her. plus, the whole "if you pine over a guy for long enough he'll eventually notice you" thing doesn't sit well with me. oh, and the whole monster in Harry's chest... wtf?

wrote:And JK totally made a typo. She meant to say "AS/S was well."

LMFAO. best ship name ever. even if i'm not a supporter.

wrote:If Harry was going to die, he should have stayed died.

i wanted him to die for the simple fact that i knew he'd end up with Ginny if he didn't. i got screwed two times over.

just out of curiousity, what house does everyone think the ASP will be in? i'm hoping anything but gryffindor, because all i ever read is: 'well his parents were Gryffindors so he will be too' (never mind that Sirius went against his family and the Patil twins were in different houses) and 'he seems too sweet to be a Slytherin' (never mind that Slytherin is the house of cunning and ambition, not, 'oh noes it's the house of terribly incurable evil-ness!'). plus it's unimaginative and so devoid of potential compared to Slytherin!Albus. so i'm supporting Slytherin!Albus.

Oh yes. I was so mad at the seventh book. "All of Hogwarts banded together for the final battle except the Slytherins." Maybe there'd be MORE Slytherins who'd support the dark side...but yeah. And it's only purified in the end when the good guys take over and fix up their children. *snort*

Sure it showed a few good Slytherins but Snape was only good cuz he was in love with a friggin' Gryfinndor.

Yay, someone else who agrees with me.

But I prefer Hufflepuff!Albus tbh. They get the even shorter end of the stick.

wrote:Oh yes. I was so mad at the seventh book. "All of Hogwarts banded together for the final battle except the Slytherins." Maybe there'd be MORE Slytherins who'd support the dark side...but yeah. And it's only purified in the end when the good guys take over and fix up their children. *snort*

i actually read an interview where JKR said words to the effect of 'i liked the scene when Slughorn came back with the Slytherin reinforcements'. i re-read the whole chapter and it said no such thing. and as you said, there might be more, but it's stupid that out of the whole Slytherin population, not a single one stayed beind (except the ones she told us about, rather than actually showing us in the book [a.k.a. show don't tell]). plus, not ALL of them are even purebloods. purebloods are said to be a dying breed, so there must be some half-blooded or perhaps even muggleborn Slytherins that wouldn't support voldemort's cause. why couldn't THEY stay and fight, or some of them. at one stage JKR talked about theodore nott, and it really sounded like he might have been a marginally decent or even nice Slytherin. but of course they cut that chapter in the editing process.

wrote:But I prefer Hufflepuff!Albus tbh. They get the even shorter end of the stick.

lol, true. i'm not much of a fan since the only really strong hufflepuff character was cedric, who died, zacharias smith, who was a git, and justin finch-fletchley, who got attacked by the basilisk... so throughout the series i was like, canon fodder? but tbh i don't really like the houses thing all that much... so many characters exhibited qualities of more than one house, which makes it pointless. if they wanted unity in the school like dumbledore said, they should just get rid of the bloody things. but the gryffindor/slytherin rivalry does make for good drama.

Whot about Ernie Mac-what's-his-name?

rubberchickenben wrote:Whot about Ernie Mac-what's-his-name?

yup, ernie macmillan. i didn't list him because he never really had an important role. the series wouldn't be different if he was ommitted, you know what i mean? sure, he was brave and loyal for fighting in the final battle, but a heap of random Ravenclaws stayed too. they risked dying for a person they didn't even know. in my mind, him fighting doesn't make him any better than all those nameless Ravenclaws.

but to be fair, the roles of Ravenclaw could have been fulfilled by Gryffindors too. we only had Luna/Cho that had significance, and they could have easily been slotted into Gryffindor. hence the reason i've always thought that the only houses that really necessary were Gryffindor and Slytherin. if you list the contributions of Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw, that couldn't be given by members of Slytherin/Gryffindor, you wouldn't come up with much. i just don't think they add anything to the story.

anyway this is just my humble (also biased, but at least i'm admitting it :P) opinion.

Well, the epilogue was nice, but it could have been better if it showed Harry and his family traveling off somewhere. The idea of Harry & co. traveling around the world seems exciting, but then again, it's not as exciting as Harry having to face off Voldy in the final battle. So in other words, they still get to live normal, yet not boring, lives.

I could have liked the epilogue if the whole "happy family living happily ever after" thing wasn't so cliche though...