About Atlantis...

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Bartimaeus said that he was at Egypt when it happened and therefore knew what happened to Atlantis. Very nice and all, but there's a problem. Atlantis sank at 9600 BC.

Any opinions on this?
I bet that Jonathan changed the time so that Bartimaeus was there and knew what happened.
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The time and place of Atlantis' sinking varies hugely between sources.
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It does? I checked wikipedia and it said 9600 BC, the TV said the same. Hum, guess there's lots of time for that.
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Nero Higher Spirit
Both the telly and Wikipedia aren't always reliable sources.


Plato seems to be the only source that says when Atlantis sunk. So....I dunno.

Besides, Stroud does adjust times for a lot of states. Like Rome, Britain; the Bartimaeus Trilogy is set in modern times, but science is really behind.
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*Cracks knuckles*

Assuming it was real, Atlantis was "beyond the Pillars of Hercules", also known as the straight of Gibralter.
That means Atlantic.
Seeing as how likely it is that it didn't exist, or didn't exist as Plato described it, the date fits just fine.
Some people nowadays believe that "Atlantis" was merely Plato's version of a utopia society.
i.e. a perfect world, which means a good deal of Mathematical precision, Philosophical rulers (à la The Republic), and a proper and just society.
Naturally, our philosopher makes it a real thing, in an unknown and distant land: beyond the 'pillars' that mark the edge of the map.
This keeps anyone from popping up and saying, "Hey! That doesn't exist!".
Making is a work of fiction somewhat lessens the (perceived or not) impact of his writing.
Ayn Rand wrote The Fountainhead with the principles of Objectivism within it, with Atlas Shrugged being her magnum opus, which she later adapted into her official philosophy, Objectivism.
Nero can back me up in this.
Plato used the legend of Atlantis to subtly convey his opinion.
Bartimaeus' version merely modifies it, and uses the modern-day location that we think inspired Plato- Santorini.
A massive volcano (which some think inspired the Biblical flood- running outta time, talk about that later) destroyed it.
Bart references it with the explosion, noting that in the BT universe, it was caused by a massive unrestrained spirit instead of a volcano.
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.... *is shocked*

Very intelligent Dansariki

So unlike you. :P

I agree everything with you...except your new signature at the bottom.

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Probably because if doesn't fit with Dansariki, right?
Ah well, I felt like killing the topic.
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....Murderer!

:P
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Eh, it has no reason to live, she posted a question to be proven.
I proved it wrong.
End of story.
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You forgot to look for that info at Bart's books page.

Bart "writes" past empires there:

<..>
EGYPT: 3000 BC – 500 BC

ATLANTIS: c. 1500 BC

ISRAEL: c. 1000 BC

<..>

Hope that'll answer your question.
Excuse me if I made any mistakes writing this message.
English isn't my main language.
yep. agree with artee there. :D
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Dansariki Higher Spirit
Forgotten that existed...
Ah well, I was still right.
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Atlantis was ubicated at Gibraltar, in southern spain. Atlantis probably was a derivated of the cultureof the tartessian, the most advanced at the moment. But theres other story that tells that was ubicated at Crete, and the legend says that the tradegy happened at a city called Santorini. Those were the places with most posibilities but there are more places that according to the legend Atlantis was there: Canarys islands, Bolivia, Tunisia, Cerdena, Southern Italy, Northern Mexico,... And the ending ages are different in all the places.

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