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| God/Gods v. Lack Thereof | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 14 2010, 05:41 AM (1,747 Views) | |
| FuzzyLobster | Aug 15 2010, 04:55 PM Post #16 |
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I don't know if I'm going to post my thoughts here; I'd probably be at it for half an hour and don't feel like taking the time right now. But I just want to say thanks to all of you for being so mature about this. Discussions about religion vs. atheism have a tendency to turn nasty, especially on the internet. So thanks for keeping out the name calling and the hatred, which I've always found to be really pathetic and depressing. You guys rock. |
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| Chiz | Aug 16 2010, 06:30 AM Post #17 |
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Maybe we will be enlightend somehow and able to live with eternity, be like spirits and enjoy the moment or being (but of course the last doesn't sound interesting). Well we would be spirits without bodies of course. Lol bringing Bartimaeus stuff into this. And N&B the heaven hell/another life stuff does look like wishfull thinking taken all together like that. Hmm. But its tecnically beliving in god thats the first step to heaven. Not just being good. And that' what if your good but dont belive in god' is a whole other topic im still trying to find an awswer to from the god pov. Hopefully its more complicated
Edited by Chiz, Aug 16 2010, 06:52 AM.
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| nathanielandbartimaeus | Aug 16 2010, 02:04 PM Post #18 |
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Yeah, because if you don't really believe in god you won't believe in heavens either. The good-bad thing is just how we humans see it. Er, if you do believe that religion was conceived by man, then we can pretty much say the good-bad divide was created by him too. It could have been the opposite, but it wouldn't have made sense and somehow, somewhere, humans are tuned for goodness. It could just be evolution. You help others, they help you, you have a higher chance of survival. And that brings me to religion again. Since I believe religious texts were written by men, I have a deep regard for those men who have written it. They were undoubtedly wise and probably way more open-minded than the rest who lived around that time. But, since they were written centuries ago, they do tend to include stuff we now consider prejudiced. That is one reasons why I believe that religion must change with time instead of it being considered a, um, for lack of a better word, gospel truth. Though honestly, I don't think there is anything wrong if god-fearing people follow whatever their religious texts say. After all, it is like a way of life. There are many options (/religions) you could choose from. But people seldom take religion as a way to live their life; it is usually just blind following of the religion you're born into. |
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"If the bee disappears from the surface of the earth, man would have no more than four years to live. No more bees, no more pollination ... no more men!" - Einstein "I like quoting Einstein. Know why? Because nobody dares contradict you." - Studs Terkel. <@Ximenez> Sentynel: But i have a life? No. Qed. | |
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| Chiz | Aug 17 2010, 12:06 AM Post #19 |
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well we'll see someday
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| nathanielandbartimaeus | Aug 18 2010, 02:12 PM Post #20 |
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It is just what I feel. There is nothing there to see. Edited by nathanielandbartimaeus, Aug 18 2010, 02:13 PM.
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"If the bee disappears from the surface of the earth, man would have no more than four years to live. No more bees, no more pollination ... no more men!" - Einstein "I like quoting Einstein. Know why? Because nobody dares contradict you." - Studs Terkel. <@Ximenez> Sentynel: But i have a life? No. Qed. | |
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| Dansariki | Aug 20 2010, 07:38 AM Post #21 |
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It'll be fun if I'm wrong. Nice thing about being atheist, it's a great surprise if you're wrong. |
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Knowledge is Power, Power Corrupts, and Corruption Destroys. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~Isaac Asimov There was never a good war, or a bad peace. ~Benjamin Franklin You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. ~Medgar Evers CaffeineRiot.com | |
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| Captain Internets | Aug 20 2010, 09:42 AM Post #22 |
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No, cuz we'd be going to hell >.> |
sentynel is gay
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| Epic_Footstool | Aug 20 2010, 10:10 AM Post #23 |
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Unless there really is a heaven, but only atheists can go to it. ^An idea I first heard about from David Mitchell. |
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Bartimaeus: It won't be the only mad thing about if you let this lot go. Check out that one at the end. He's taken the form of a footstool. Weird...but somehow I like his style. Nathaniel: That is a footstool. No one's using that Pentacle. | |
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| nathanielandbartimaeus | Aug 20 2010, 01:08 PM Post #24 |
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Marid
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xD! |
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| Chiz | Aug 21 2010, 06:48 AM Post #25 |
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I know I wanted to edit that and say or not but I didn't |
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| Dansariki | Aug 22 2010, 07:04 AM Post #26 |
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Oh well, now we know. @DC. Awesome. |
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