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| Bartimaeus and all Djinnis; Genies? | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 27 2009, 09:52 PM (819 Views) | |
| dance4ever51 | Feb 27 2009, 09:52 PM Post #1 |
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Is Bartimaeus what would be known today as a genie? I wikied djinni, and it automatically forwarded me to genie. However, when I looked in dictionary.com, it gave me this definition: any of a class of spirits, lower than the angels, capable of appearing in human and animal forms and influencing humankind for either good or evil. Does anyone know which is right? I seriously hope its the second one, because picturing Barty as that blue thing from Aladdin would just totally ruin it. Theresa
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| Sentynel | Feb 27 2009, 09:54 PM Post #2 |
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"Genie" is an Anglicisation of the original Arabic word jinni or djinni. |
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| Umbreo | Mar 1 2009, 02:05 AM Post #3 |
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Translation: It's the same thing. |
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| FuzzyLobster | Mar 1 2009, 02:08 PM Post #4 |
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You know things are bad when you need a translator. ![]()
Heh. Edit: Oh and
Edited by FuzzyLobster, Mar 1 2009, 02:11 PM.
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| Nero | Mar 1 2009, 04:47 PM Post #5 |
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Yes it would. Welcome Theresa. |
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| nathanielandbartimaeus | Mar 3 2009, 01:59 PM Post #6 |
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It certainly fits the first category better. Because 'lower than the angels' & ' influencing humankind for either good or evil' isn't characteristic of the djinn we read about in the books. The latter part sounds as if the djinn are their own masters. |
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| Dansariki | Mar 11 2009, 01:55 AM Post #7 |
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That's why Stroud's so cool, he took the traditional stuff and made it better. The commoners believe the evil spirit definition, while the Magicians know the truth: they're just slaves. And yeah, good as Robin Williams is, Aladdin's Genie just doesn't work. |
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| Honorius | Apr 5 2009, 12:57 AM Post #8 |
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I think that in this present-day world, the terms "genie" and "djinni" have two totally different meanings. Today, the word "Genie" basically almost always implies a floaty blue spirit summoned by a lamp. I actually quite liked the character of the Genie in Aladdin. The term "Djinni" also implies a spirit, but a powerful one that does not have to be summoned by a lamp. Of course, the best spirits of all are the Afrits, and the best Afrit of all is Honorius. |
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