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The 7 Planes
Topic Started: Dec 15 2008, 11:22 PM (3,155 Views)
Nero
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umbreo
Dec 18 2008, 11:06 PM
No, I wasn't saying that to you. I should have quoted Dansariki. He said "People's faces don't look perfect when they're sleeping", so I said they don't look perfect full stop.

(My comp stuffs up whenever I try to use the quote button, sorry)
Oh. That's alright. =D
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Was it ever mentioned what purpose each plane served? I wonder what the spirits with more planes see.
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Each plane was supposed to show different levels of magic - usually the higher the plane the more powerful the magic.
When I set out from the boy's attic window, my head was so full of competing plans and complex strategems that I didn't look where I was going and flew straight into a chimney.

Something symbolic in that. It's what fake freedom does for you.
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Not really... the higher the plane, the more of the nature of the magic is revealed.
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Yes, I meant to say that more powerful magic can be seen on the higher planes.
When I set out from the boy's attic window, my head was so full of competing plans and complex strategems that I didn't look where I was going and flew straight into a chimney.

Something symbolic in that. It's what fake freedom does for you.
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But that's not true.
You see more of a lowly imp on the seventh than the second, each plane reveals more about the world's nature, without relation to it's power.
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Yes, I see what you mean. That would be the correct way to phrase it.
When I set out from the boy's attic window, my head was so full of competing plans and complex strategems that I didn't look where I was going and flew straight into a chimney.

Something symbolic in that. It's what fake freedom does for you.
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kitty jones
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Aren't there more than 7 planes though?

I remember somewhere at the start of AoS Bart says that there are 7 planes but whoever operates on more is just showing off....
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Yeah, there are more planes but Bart doesn't have them. I'm sure they serve a better purpose than what Bart would tell us.
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kitty jones
Jan 4 2009, 12:33 PM
Aren't there more than 7 planes though?

I remember somewhere at the start of AoS Bart says that there are 7 planes but whoever operates on more is just showing off....
I was under the imression he was making a joke... I don't think there are more than seven planes. But there are higher things than Marids, so you never know.
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Rammy made "the planes close to the rift suddenly went out of sync, as if they were being pulled sideways at varying speeds." He transcends mere plane levels. :P
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Jan 4 2009, 08:44 PM
I was under the imression he was making a joke... I don't think there are more than seven planes. But there are higher things than Marids, so you never know.
I'm pretty sure more than seven planes do exist, and Barti's just embarrassed cos he can't see them. (The mercenary says he sees seven planes, mind..)
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Seven major ones, with Seven League Boots operating on the (hypothetical, mind you) eighth.
That's what he says in the books.
I think the SLB actually operate on a sub plane or in between, rather than on an eighth.
Edited by Dansariki, Jan 5 2009, 12:12 AM.
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This supposed eighth plane is (as Bartimaeus says) hypothetical. Just speculation. As for the 7 League Boots, I don't think they would operate on the normal 7 planes (due to their ability to ignor the rules of time and dimension), but I don't know what the hell a "sub-plane" or "in between planes" is supposed to mean either (Dansariki). My guess is that the boots do operate on the hypothetical 8th plane, or maybe they are just magical artefacts that can do what they do by disregarding the planes altogether.
When I set out from the boy's attic window, my head was so full of competing plans and complex strategems that I didn't look where I was going and flew straight into a chimney.

Something symbolic in that. It's what fake freedom does for you.
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No, because they're made with Djinn sowed into them, they have to be governed by the planes.
Typo, whether -> rather.
Well... maybe they're in between a plane.
Could mean extra abilities, or stretching of the laws of physics.
Well, their version, anyways.
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Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome.
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