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The Cloak of State; Why did Makepeace want it?
Topic Started: Jul 27 2008, 11:02 PM (912 Views)
Dansariki	Aug 2 2008, 03:54 PM Post #16
Higher Spirit Posts: 5,082 Group: Magicians Member #1,135 Joined: April 22, 2007 Gender: Male	Doubt that. Just absorbs it, like an amulet should. All Gladstone would have to do is keep the cloak wrapped to protect his front.
	Knowledge is Power, Power Corrupts, and Corruption Destroys. 黑暗的火 Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~Isaac Asimov There was never a good war, or a bad peace. ~Benjamin Franklin You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. ~Medgar Evers CaffeineRiot.com
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Ptolemy	Aug 30 2008, 03:40 AM Post #17
Mite Posts: 12 Group: Magicians Member #7,406 Joined: July 14, 2008 Gender: Male Favourite Book: PG, HP7, FIRE, Animorphs, Lemony Snicket	In the Amulet of Samarkand, Bart said that, because there was so much energy being unleashed, the Amulet was absorbing all magical energy around it, including spirits. If Gladstone used the Staff (very powerful magical object), wouldn't a strong amulet absorb his own attacks as well as his attackers'?
	"Smoking kills. If you die, you lose a very important part of your life." - Brooke Shields "The Earth is the center of the universe." - Ptolemy "Nothing important happened today." King George's journal on the 4th July, 1776. "Well, try giving yourself a rude gesture. It just doesn't work, does it?" Bartimaeus, final footnote of his trilogy.
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Nero	Aug 30 2008, 02:46 PM Post #18
The Canadian Posts: 5,499 Group: Magicians Member #1,117 Joined: April 19, 2007 Gender: Male Favourite Book: Too many good books for 50 characters	Only a certain person, maybe someone near him. It can't defend one city. Attackers? If you mean spirits, if they get too close, yes. Humans, no.

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kitty jones	Aug 30 2008, 04:52 PM Post #19
Utukku Posts: 429 Group: Magicians Member #1,713 Joined: August 18, 2007	I think it had a glamour of some sort.....That way he could persuade the government into giving him the power to invade Prague and stuff.... Something nearly impossible for a normal man... It might have had a protective shield but i dont think he really needed it since he had the staff and two afrits (Honorius and Patterknife ) for protection....

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Cormocodran	Sep 4 2008, 01:04 AM Post #20
Foliot Posts: 142 Group: Magicians Member #7,173 Joined: May 20, 2008 Favourite Book: Enders Game or Speaker for the Dead	kitty jones Aug 30 2008, 04:52 PM I think it had a glamour of some sort.....That way he could persuade the government into giving him the power to invade Prague and stuff.... Something nearly impossible for a normal man... It might have had a protective shield but i dont think he really needed it since he had the staff and two afrits (Honorius and Patterknife ) for protection.... I kind of have the same suspicion of a glamour. At first I thought it might make him invisible, but it also might just make him unnoticeable or something.
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Dansariki	Sep 4 2008, 05:47 AM Post #21
Higher Spirit Posts: 5,082 Group: Magicians Member #1,135 Joined: April 22, 2007 Gender: Male	Again, doubt that. History would have said Hitler "persuaded" the Jews to leave, had ol' Adolf won. Gladstone strong-armed 'em.
	Knowledge is Power, Power Corrupts, and Corruption Destroys. 黑暗的火 Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~Isaac Asimov There was never a good war, or a bad peace. ~Benjamin Franklin You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. ~Medgar Evers CaffeineRiot.com
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Nero	Sep 4 2008, 09:49 PM Post #22
The Canadian Posts: 5,499 Group: Magicians Member #1,117 Joined: April 19, 2007 Gender: Male Favourite Book: Too many good books for 50 characters	Dansariki Sep 4 2008, 05:47 AM Again, doubt that. History would have said Hitler "persuaded" the Jews to leave, had ol' Adolf won. Gladstone strong-armed 'em. Nah. NO history would be more accurate.

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Dansariki	Sep 5 2008, 07:40 PM Post #23
Higher Spirit Posts: 5,082 Group: Magicians Member #1,135 Joined: April 22, 2007 Gender: Male	I completely failed to get anything out of that. lol. I didn't get it.
	Knowledge is Power, Power Corrupts, and Corruption Destroys. 黑暗的火 Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~Isaac Asimov There was never a good war, or a bad peace. ~Benjamin Franklin You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. ~Medgar Evers CaffeineRiot.com
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Dr. Rekhyt	May 15 2009, 02:39 AM Post #24
Mouler Posts: 15 Group: Magicians Member #7,719 Joined: May 11, 2009 Gender: Male Favourite Book: Amulet of Samarkand	Nero Aug 2 2008, 02:55 PM Dansariki Aug 2 2008, 05:47 AM TheSilverNoble Jul 28 2008, 08:00 PM I think I assumed it was something more defensive. The Charm idea does make sense, but with the staff he could intimidate or kill anyone who disagreed with him. If it had some sort of strong Shield, or functioned like and amulet, he would also be protected. I agree with this. It's Gladstone's version of a bulletproof vest for the era. Though it would look weird if it also protects the front too. Some djinni shoots a Detonation, and the cloak just bounces it back.... It might have been a talisman, or it might have been merely a cloak-a greatly ceremonial one, but no less a cloak. Makepeace was very "ambitous" ie so full of himself he killed the government and absorbed a high spirit (ove rmarid level). He would have attached great symoblism to being dressed like Gladstone while wielding his power.
	"I am Bartimaeus! I am Sakhr al-Jinni, N'gorso the Mighty and the Serpent of Silver Plumes! I have rebuilt the walls of Uruk, Karnak and Prague. I have spoken with Solomon. I have run with the buffalo fathers of the plains. I have watched over Old Zimbabwe till the stones fell and the jackals fed on its people." -Bartimaues, whom some call Rekhyt
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Dansariki	May 18 2009, 11:34 PM Post #25
Higher Spirit Posts: 5,082 Group: Magicians Member #1,135 Joined: April 22, 2007 Gender: Male	I've thought of that, but Gladstone imbued power in nearly everything around him. You'll notice, if you re-examine it, that the two items Makepeace said were 'worthless' to Kitty were the Staff and the Cloak. The former leveled walls, the latter's gotta be something.
	Knowledge is Power, Power Corrupts, and Corruption Destroys. 黑暗的火 Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~Isaac Asimov There was never a good war, or a bad peace. ~Benjamin Franklin You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. ~Medgar Evers CaffeineRiot.com
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David Cat	May 18 2009, 11:37 PM Post #26
Golem Posts: 2,731 Group: Magicians Member #7,384 Joined: July 5, 2008 Gender: Male Display latest blog link: Favourite Book: Too many from which to choose...	Dansariki May 18 2009, 11:34 PM I've thought of that, but Gladstone imbued power in nearly everything around him. You'll notice, if you re-examine it, that the two items Makepeace said were 'worthless' to Kitty were the Staff and the Cloak. The former leveled walls, the latter's gotta be something. Makepeace probably wanted the cloak for bragging rights, he's such a showman =p
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Lava	Jun 11 2010, 03:09 AM Post #27
Mouler Posts: 15 Group: Magicians Member #7,992 Joined: June 8, 2010 Gender: Male Favourite Book: Amulet of Samarkand	FuzzyLobster Jul 28 2008, 08:11 PM I don't really have any basis for this, but maybe he also asked for the cloak because he wanted to draw attention from him wanting the staff. If he was to only ask for one item, it would seem more suspicious than if he asked for two. Just my opinion. This seems reasonable. Gladstone would not need a charm, who would argue with someone with a staff that can blow down walls? No wonder he was made Prime Minister!

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