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| Topic Started: Feb 6 2006, 05:31 PM (7,957 Views) | |
| Kibblediggit | Jul 3 2006, 06:14 AM Post #181 |
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How so? |
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| Krim | Jul 3 2006, 06:14 AM Post #182 |
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I'm saying your example doesn't make sense, because science doesn't say 'oh well, rock didn't drop, try a million more times'. They'll look for a reason, and most of the time, there will be. If not, it'll be dismissed as a 'phenomenon'. I don't believe we know (or knew, at least) what exactly creates a will-o'-the-wisp, but there are scientific explanations that could explain them. Or you could go with the folklore of dead spirits or whatever... Puck, that silly little goblin imp thing... ...so like, this convo is going no where. |
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Gladstone/Sentynel/Krim/Gladstone/Sentynel/Krim/Stroud/Gladstone The three ships. Kinda like the Mayflower and all those. | |
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| Post | Jul 3 2006, 06:18 AM Post #183 |
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The Bible was written by humans, edited by humans and published by humans. Will'o'the Wisp:
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| Krim | Jul 3 2006, 06:19 AM Post #184 |
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You like randomly quoting wikipedia. Note:
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Gladstone/Sentynel/Krim/Gladstone/Sentynel/Krim/Stroud/Gladstone The three ships. Kinda like the Mayflower and all those. | |
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| Post | Jul 3 2006, 06:20 AM Post #185 |
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Ah, should have edited that. |
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| Kibblediggit | Jul 3 2006, 06:21 AM Post #186 |
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Yeah, but some of those humans talked to God himself. Or to Jesus. All it proves is that there might be very important "typos" in the bible. And just because you know how it happened doesn't mean that it wasn't a miracle. :3 |
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| Post | Jul 3 2006, 06:25 AM Post #187 |
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I doubt it, it was, like, 60 years after the events.
"Any suffieciently advanced science is undisguinsible from magic' - HG Wells. If nothing else explains it: "If you tell a lie big enoug and often enough, it becomes the truth" - Hitler |
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| Kibblediggit | Jul 3 2006, 06:27 AM Post #188 |
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How do you know it was sixty years? Magic and miracles are two very different things. Are you interested/open or should I not go into detail? And the truth always comes out, somewhere and sometime. |
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| Post | Jul 3 2006, 07:33 AM Post #189 |
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Read any editorial about the bible.
I'm always ready to debunk whatever you say. Or are you going to say something so utterly brilliant that I'll shut up?
Really now, it took what 5000 years of civilization to know the Earth is nor flat? A lie big enough told often enough becomes the truth. |
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| Kibblediggit | Jul 3 2006, 08:05 AM Post #190 |
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But it wasn't the truth, was it? And editorials aren't always correct, besides, people lived longer in biblical times. And sixty years was enough time to mentally make mistakes while writing it. Or whatever. Where did this point come from again? It's not brilliant enough for you to shut up. It's more novel. We'd have to get past the first stage of this conversation in order for anyone to truly appreciate it. D: |
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| Post | Jul 3 2006, 08:54 AM Post #191 |
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So, without mordern medicine and hygiene, opressed by those romans, the lived longer than us? I'd say the lifespan of a peasanst in biblical times was 50-60 years at best. |
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| Gladstone | Jul 3 2006, 09:54 AM Post #192 |
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People chuck babies into Ovens in 1943. You don't even know what Macro and Micro evolution is, how can completely dismiss evolution then? |
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| Post | Jul 3 2006, 10:22 AM Post #193 |
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Okay,now here's My two cents. THE DISPROVAL OF GOD. Well, god is omnipotent and omniscient, right? All power and all Knowing. Well, if God is omnipotent, can he create a object so heavy he can not lift it? A task he can not complete? Ask a question he can not answer? If he can, he is no longer omnipotent. If he can't he's not omnipotent is he? The Omnipotence Paradox. And now, the Omniscience paradox, I'll start will a statement and assume you agree. (And you better.) "Free Will Exists." Now, if you have free will, you have a choice on what you are going to do. ie, mutiple options can be taken. And now, if God is Omniscient, he already knows what choice you are going to make. Voiding free will, if God knows what choice you are going to make, you don't have a choice, per see? No free will or No omniscient god. Even if you disregard the above; there's general problem of evil. It exists. If god is Omnipotent, Omniscient and all Benevolent, why is there so much evil in the world? |
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| Luciene | Jul 3 2006, 12:55 PM Post #194 |
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God knows what we're going to do. That doesn't mean he has to do something to stop us. I think he lets us make mistakes and learn from them.
Actually no. Like they said, the Bible is scripture, a.k.a religious. So it's not historical.
Carbon dating only
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| Sentynel | Jul 3 2006, 01:43 PM Post #195 |
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What about the tsunami a couple of years ago? Earthquakes? Volcanic eruptions? Hurricanes? Humans had nothing to do with those happening. And yet they happen, and kill millions. Why does god allow it?
So why, oh why, do they set out to "prove" intelligent design, the existance of God, or whatever, taking it as fact from the beginning? It's like a study which tried to prove homeopathy (where apparently, water retains the effects from having ingredients added in quantities so tiny that there are actually no molecules of the ingredients left in it). The results turned up positive for homeopathy. However, when the experiment was repeated so the scientists doing it didn't know which beakers contained water with homeopathic 'ingredients' (for want of a better word) in, there was no result. They were unconsciously twisting the results to prove what they wanted to prove. |
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