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| Creation Vs Evolution. | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 6 2006, 05:31 PM (7,960 Views) | |
| Phaos | Jul 2 2006, 08:27 PM Post #136 |
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bibles not all a metaphor, only some of it, maybe most, but who can tell. |
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| Luciene | Jul 2 2006, 08:29 PM Post #137 |
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No, I think 2 of the rivers that were near the Garden of Eden in the bible exist today. |
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| Phaos | Jul 2 2006, 08:32 PM Post #138 |
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really? then where was the garden of eden suupsoe to be? if that sounds rude, its not suppose to be, I really am just curious on your opinion. |
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| Luciene | Jul 2 2006, 08:33 PM Post #139 |
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Iran or Iraq. I can't remember. The bible mention the rivers, Euphrates and Tigris, and they exist today in one of those countries. And the interesting thing, is that area is really fertile and there's a lot of plants around. Probably because of the rivers. Edit: It's Iraq. (The irony )
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| Phaos | Jul 2 2006, 08:35 PM Post #140 |
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fertile cresent you mean? hmmm...I guess it is possible. But just because the rivers are named that doesnt mean that thats their original names, and they wernt jsut named after the rivers. and shouldnt the place where the garden was be like desolate and deserty? I actaully think that one of the deserts in the world is where the garden was. or maybe a swamp or under sea. |
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| Gladstone | Jul 2 2006, 08:44 PM Post #141 |
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At the end of the day, you can't prove God exists. You can prove Micro-Eolvution conclusively. Theres a hell of a lot of evidence to support Macro-Evolution. I am willing to follow that. IMO, we don't need God. Of course, I also stongly believe that those who have the ability, have the responsibility. God has the ability, he therefore has the responsibility. yet he does nothing. That can't be justified from where I am. |
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| Luciene | Jul 2 2006, 08:54 PM Post #142 |
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How can you expect him to do anything, if you don't believe in him, don't trust him and all that. You have to have faith, I think. |
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| Phaos | Jul 2 2006, 08:55 PM Post #143 |
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No one ever has, no one ever will, only god himself can prove that he exists dont want to sound stupid, but...I have no clue what micro and macro evolution is. and what do you mean that god does nothing? Everyday there are miracles, people revived, people saved, prayers answered. |
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| Luciene | Jul 2 2006, 09:00 PM Post #144 |
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You also can't compare the proof of evolution to proof of God. God is a lot more than creation. |
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| Kibblediggit | Jul 2 2006, 09:11 PM Post #145 |
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Bam bam bam! I'm too lazy to go back and read the posts that weren't on this page, or the first one, so I'll just leap in with my two cents. My basic theory is that there's evolution and God. Y'know, the one where one million years could be just one day to Him. Besides, that part of Genesis has a large symboligical factor-y. So there's Evolution and God. One does not necessarily disprove the other. This is pretty much just one macho reply to everything on this page. I believe that God exists, but I think if someone really doesn't believe that then there's nothing you can do right away bam bam bam to prove that he does exist. I could say why I think he exists and all that shizz, but you wouldn't believe me. But some people have theories like "Well, if God is so great then why does he let all them bad things happen. If he does exist then I don't like him". What people forget is that there's also a Satan, who is a pretty malignant fellow. So God has his good stuff, and Satan does his bad stuff. He does have a third of heaven's angels with him. God still does stuff if you don't believe in him, I think. I've seen that. |
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| Hodge | Jul 2 2006, 09:14 PM Post #146 |
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I believe that God created the world in six 24 hr. days and that he slept on the seventh 24 hr. day, making the law of sabbath for Israel. |
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| Sentynel | Jul 2 2006, 09:30 PM Post #147 |
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o_O O_o Priests can only be male... because only males can be priests? Eh? God's omnipotent, right? And yet God's good? Bad things happen in the world. Depending on your point of view, that's because either Satan does it or because God is punishing us/trying to make us look after ourselves/whatever. If Satan's doing it, why doesn't God stop him? And what kind of good god leaves his people to suffer when he could stop it with a thought? |
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| Luciene | Jul 2 2006, 09:34 PM Post #148 |
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About the suffering, God gives us free will. We make our own mistakes by giving in to the devil. And God helps us by giving us strength to overcome it. And we become better people. And would you like to have someone controling your entire life? I prefer to make mistakes and become a better person, than bieng totally dependant |
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| Phaos | Jul 2 2006, 09:39 PM Post #149 |
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I agree wtih lucience 100%. I was gonna post my own reason, but his reasoning is better...heck Ill just post what I was going to say anyways. "preisthood is the power of god that he gave us. and only males can have the preisthood, so therfore only males can be preists. 1. yes 2. correct 3. The only time god punishes a people or a person on earth is when the people are so wicked that the truth would be lost and or destoryed if they wernt destoyed/punished. and one of the many reasons we are here on earth (or so I beleive) is to test us, to make sure that we are really loyal to our father in heaven. and god gave us agency, the ability to deside for oursevles what we want to do, he promised he wouldnt interfere with that" |
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| Kibblediggit | Jul 2 2006, 09:44 PM Post #150 |
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Free will, alas alas. If the questions doesn't make sense then the answer probably won't either, that's something to remember in ye philiosophical questioning. Uuuh...what were we talking about? Oh yes. Satan. God. Free Will. Why. Satan has free will too, right? I don't know what God's doing with him or anything, but I sort of believe that there's always going ot be evil in the world and not believing in God because of that's not a good reason. But everyone's open to their opinions. Also, he is trying to stop it. It's just that I think so many people are worried about banning Brokeback Mountain from movie theatres that they're completely oblivious to genocides on the other side of the world. I sort of think we, as people, should help too. God's not just "kay, bam bam bam it's all gone now". I have no idea how it works. But if we lived in a perfect wolrd, would we be happier? Or will we always find something that's wrong? |
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